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mad.gif posted on 31-1-2014 at 20:04
how to precipitate ferrous oxalate in solution


Behavious of ferrous oxalate is very complex, I got a pink colour solution during leaching iron oxides using oxalic acid. But I could not able to get it precipitate ?

I added some alchohal but it not precipitates.

any body has any idea.
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[*] posted on 31-1-2014 at 20:31


I don't think you have any ferrous oxalate, it is very insoluble in water.
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[*] posted on 31-1-2014 at 20:44


Quote: Originally posted by mnick12  
I don't think you have any ferrous oxalate, it is very insoluble in water.


When conditions are right ferrous oxalate can stay in solution, as I found out when I tried to synthesize it by mixing ferrous chloride and oxalic acid. I got a yellow solution, but upon heating the ferrous oxalate began to precipitate. I'm not exactly sure of what caused this.

However, the fact that veerendra got a pink solution suggests that it wasn't ferrous oxalate...




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[*] posted on 31-1-2014 at 21:44


Ferrous oxalate is only sparingly soluble in water, the soluble compound you generated was likely some sort of transient coordination compound.
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[*] posted on 31-1-2014 at 22:30


Pink? Might there be a manganese impurity in your iron oxide?



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[*] posted on 1-2-2014 at 11:07


maybe if you evaporate it you might attain pink crystals or powder,nice either way.
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[*] posted on 2-2-2014 at 06:55


Quote: Originally posted by DraconicAcid  
Pink? Might there be a manganese impurity in your iron oxide?


'veerendra' is also the member who is trying to separate Mn and Fe oxides using oxalic acid:

http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=28564#...

But Mn<sup>2+</sup> pink colour is really only apparent at quite high concentrations or in solids like MnCl<sub>2</sub> hydrate. Also, Mn (II) oxalate is poorly soluble in water, 0.028 g / 100 g water at 20 C acc. Wikipedia.

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[*] posted on 2-2-2014 at 11:24


Again my guess is some sort of coordination complex, any sort of electron transfer in the d-orbitals produces intensely colored compound.
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[*] posted on 2-2-2014 at 12:18


Quote: Originally posted by blogfast25  

But Mn<sup>2+</sup> pink colour is really only apparent at quite high concentrations or in solids like MnCl<sub>2</sub> hydrate. Also, Mn (II) oxalate is poorly soluble in water, 0.028 g / 100 g water at 20 C acc. Wikipedia.


But tris(oxalato)manganate(III) is cherry red- a small amount would make the solution pink.

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ic00197a041




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[*] posted on 2-2-2014 at 12:47


I didn't know there was such a thing. But how to get Mn as Mn(III), in this context? That doesn't really happen 'accidentally', I think...

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