Fantasma4500
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Synthesis/nitration of SHN
hello.. i have tried nitration of sorbitol some times..
the procedure sounds very straightforward.. roughly written below
nitration mixture, add sorbitol with cooling (some say keep below 10*C some say it only reacts at 15*C to 50*C, 10*C+ doesnt seem to do anything
dangerous tho)
then its diluted with abit of water, heated to 40*C where the SHN will drop to the bottom as a oily substance, it can from here be extracted with a
syringe and dumped into EtOH and later on NaHCO3
however..
i havent seen much of this oily liquid, its like the whole thing decides to break away? ive tried it many times, and i have gotten results, but were
talking 0.005g or some, that was so small i couldnt even dry it etc
another time i did find some grease on the bottom of a beaker (which tastes horrendous btw)
i dissolved it in ethanol and 'recrystallized' it
but..
the particles were microscopic and after i let it settle for 1 week, i found this greasy substance on the bottom again? it was supposed to be crystals
after EtOH recrystallization
to sum up: have anybody on here had success with SHN? (:
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Pulverulescent
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I can't see nitrosorbite being particularly interesting as an HE, but there's this thread!
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones"
A Einstein
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Fantasma4500
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hmh
late reply -- sorry
actually it has found use in gunpowder as an excellent additive, plus sorbitol is very close to mannitol, also the nitro ester, although SHN i have
read to have a lower density than MHN, making it less brisant and having a lower VoD (300-350m/s per 0.1g approx)
anyhow i have been through the thread, but seemingly missed the part about the anhydrous HNO3 (and oleum..??)
i didnt find it specifically described anywhere to use such high conc. HNO3 although, and i remember seeing another member stating that SHN is hard to
fully nitrate..
guess SHN is what you make when you have 99% HNO3..
although one time when i turned the beaker around when nitration mix was dumped in water, i did see some oily liquid on the bottom of the beaker
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