dennisfrancisblewettiii
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Spreadsheets for OTC explosive synthesis?
One of the things on my mind lately is if there is a community or a database (or individual) that has developed spreadsheets with equations and
formulas that determine cost and quantity in relation to the development of various explosive compounds.
With some time and research, I'm sure I could do it myself. However, as I've learned in science, don't do something that somebody has already done.
That's why I'm asking about it. It seems like an obscure thing to look for, and I understand.
Am I interested in synthesis and cost of production? Definitely.
Is there a community or a database (or individual) that has developed spreadsheets with equations and formulas that determine cost and quantity in
relation to the development of various explosive compounds?
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Trotsky
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Doubtful. I don't think many here are very interested in cost benefit analysis of explosives. We're mostly the sort that makes a few grams of this
and that to say we've done it and to appreciate the chemistry.
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The_Davster
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if you can find a mirror of flashbangboom.homestead.com, this was Nick F's site in the early roguesci days that had this info.
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Chill
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Adding onto what The_Davster said, you can use the "wayback machine" to visit archives of any website. Including fbb. Google it.
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franklyn
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Octanitrocubane supposedly costs as much as gold by weight.
CL-20 shown here is not much less. HMX just a tenth of that but still pricey
and chiefly used in guided missiles and bombs. TATB about the same.
www.gizmag.com/cl-20-high-power-military-explosive/24059
This recent advance has been to combine CL-20 with more prosaic nitramines.
www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=22911#pid2706...
The sweet spot in high velocity military class secondary explosives is PETN
costing less than $ 5 klo. Cheapest of all commercial explosives remains the
mainstay ANFO at pennies per kilo and gives the best bang for the buck.
All other explosives that see use are between these in cost and performance.
As performance improves ( velocity etc ) the price climbs out of proportion.
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dennisfrancisblewettiii
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I don't think I'll be making octanitrocubane any time soon. Although, I do know what it is, I think I would need too much equipment. I definitely
would start making such things if I had the equipment and time. Sometimes chemistry can be a nice enterprise. However, it would be illegal for me to
make such without a permit. And I've got no interest in making the most dangerous of chemical explosives at the moment.
I guess developing spreadsheets is something that I would have to do on my own. Also, I don't have a spectrometer, so I can't really determine whether
or not I've got the right chemical except through analytical examination.
I guess it wouldn't be too difficult for me to make my own spreadsheets. I have a feeling that various individuals who make the compounds, home
chemists, aren't making up professional spreadsheets in relation to yield and so on. One of the few things that I ever see on this board is a write-up
of one's lab experiment.
Oh, well.
[Edited on 5-7-2013 by Genecks]
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