krfkeith
Harmless
Posts: 24
Registered: 17-4-2012
Location: Utah, United States
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Phenolic Resin: Where can an individual get this?
So, I've been trying to make some vitreous carbon. It's an extremely useful material. After searching through patents, I found several that described
processes for making it through pyrolysis of phenolic resin. When I saw that, I thought, "yay! phenolic should be easy enough to get! That's just
bakelite!"
Oh how wrong I was. . .
Basically, I have not been able to find ANYWHERE that sells this in sane quantities. Every producer of it has a "get a quote" button, which is
basically a euphemism for "too expensive for you."
Any help?
|
|
Metacelsus
International Hazard
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 2537
Registered: 26-12-2012
Location: Boston, MA
Member Is Offline
Mood: Double, double, toil and trouble
|
|
Most printed circuit boards use phenolic resin as a substrate IIRC.
|
|
Diablo
Hazard to Others
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 113
Registered: 17-9-2011
Member Is Offline
Mood: Autodidactic
|
|
Lots of stuff made from it on ebay, alternatively you could try to make your own.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Grade-LE-Phenolic-Sheet-040-x-18-x-3...
|
|
Dr.Bob
International Hazard
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 2690
Registered: 26-1-2011
Location: USA - NC
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Go to any thrift store and buy old outlet plates and grind them up. Or go to Home Depot and buy a multipack, but make sure that they are the hard
thermoplastic type, not the newer flexible ones, which are not bakelite. But older ones were all bakelite. The Habitat reuse stores usually have
scads of them.
|
|
mr.crow
National Hazard
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 884
Registered: 9-9-2009
Location: Canada
Member Is Offline
Mood: 0xFF
|
|
The nasty old brown ones do. The resin is soaked into paper sheets and loaded with fire retardants. New ones are epoxy fiberglass sheets.
Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn, and caldron bubble
|
|
krfkeith
Harmless
Posts: 24
Registered: 17-4-2012
Location: Utah, United States
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
The problem is that bakelite was impregnated with wood flour as a filler, wouldn't that interfere with the pyrolysis process? Obviously cellulose and
lingnin are primarily carbon, but their pyrolysing behavior might be rather unpredictable.
|
|