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I don't see four necked flasks on that list, does that mean they are OK? :-)
I can understand a large distillation apparatus or certain specially items being regulated, but a beaker or Erlenmeyer flask being illegal is just
insane. My coffee cup is a beaker with a handle on it, would that be illegal? I can't understand this world.
Similar to http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/96c6/
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I think a T-shirt with an Erlenmeyer flask design is in order. Maybe something small and stylist off to one side with an intelligent look. Then have
the Texas slogan "It's like a Whole Other Country" circle it for irony. ha
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I think a move is in order! what is the most liberal state for amateur science?
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What? That's crazy... You can walk in to any hydroponics store in Ontario and pick up a 12L bucket of KNO3.
Quote: Originally posted by DraconicAcid ![](images/xpblue/lastpost.gif) | Quote: Originally posted by plante1999 ![](images/xpblue/lastpost.gif) | You are supposed to be able to get KNO3 because you have a proper institution ID, no?
Anyway, I will stick with survival chem, taking minerals on the ground is not very regulated (yet) and not suspicious at all. I'm pretty sure in a few
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We do have proper institution ID, but either it's too much paperwork for the lab techs to order, or the suppliers have decided it's too much paperwork
to sell to little-old-us.
We can't buy anthranilic acid, but methyl anthranilate (being artificial grape flavour) is cheap like borscht, and unregulated. I'd rant about how we
can still get stuff from which we can easily make the other stuff, but if I do, some civil servant will scan the board and add things to the list.
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Anyways, on a different note - That's really sad to hear about Texas. When I grew up in the 80s and 90s, there weren't many restrictions in Canada,
Ontario regarding chemicals. I remember we could walk in to Shopper Drug Mart (a common drug mart chain here,) and pick up KNO3, sulfur, and charcoal
in one shot and they didn't even bat an eye.
Banning glassware? Man, what has this world come to. Kids can't just be nerdy little kids anymore.. It seems the world just wants them to play on
XBOX/PS until they're 19/21, then drink beer and be good little workers. What happened to the days of imagination and wonder. You could wake up one
day when you were 11 or 12 and decide you wanted a chemistry set and go at it... no restrictions other than your parents denying you or allowing you
to do it.
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Quote: Originally posted by woelen ![](images/xpblue/lastpost.gif) | This really is ridiculous. An erlenmeyer? A transformer? Illegal items in Texas? I hardly can believe this and take this seriously.
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In my fantasies, I'm a Texas police chief, and I get invited to a politician's house. It's the guy who came up with this bill.
I spy a cell phone charger on the kitchen counter. I bust the guy in front of his tuxedo-and-Stetson wearing guests. I haul him off in handcuffs, as
he screams bloody murder. Open and shut case: he gets 5 to 10 years for "possession of unlicensed drug manufacturing equipment."
The judge says Sir, you should have thought of that before you came up with this law. Maybe you should have looked up the word 'transformer'
before banning them.
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Quote: Originally posted by GammaFunction ![](images/xpblue/lastpost.gif) | Quote: Originally posted by woelen ![](images/xpblue/lastpost.gif) | This really is ridiculous. An erlenmeyer? A transformer? Illegal items in Texas? I hardly can believe this and take this seriously.
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In my fantasies, I'm a Texas police chief, and I get invited to a politician's house. It's the guy who came up with this bill.
I spy a cell phone charger on the kitchen counter. I bust the guy in front of his tuxedo-and-Stetson wearing guests. I haul him off in handcuffs, as
he screams bloody murder. Open and shut case: he gets 5 to 10 years for "possession of unlicensed drug manufacturing equipment."
The judge says Sir, you should have thought of that before you came up with this law. Maybe you should have looked up the word 'transformer'
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Don't forget about getting a warrant for everything else in his house... A few too many mason jars, some muriatic acid in the garage and cold pills in
the bathroom, what a bust!
In all seriousness I feel quite annoyed with how a fellow experimenter felt shunned from this hobby, because of an exaggerated law... Making somebody
feel guilty for making some copper nitrate in an unregistered erlenmeyer. Good lord.
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http://foundation.methproject.org/documents/Meth%20Impact%20...
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/ondcp/Fact_She...
http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/metha...
It was difficult to find anything texas-specific, due to the astonishing number of rehab/anti-drug websites out there, whose information I didn't
consider reliable. In any case, the ban on glassware seems to have done Texas a world of public good. Thanks Mexico.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/02/nyregion/us-judges-offer-a...
It's not the article I had originally read 6 months ago or so (also in the NYTimes), which had dealt with some new and creative ways of reducing drug
use and related crime at the small-medium dealer level, but still an interesting read into how (finally) the war on drugs is being rethought in a more
intelligent manner.
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The original poster says that he is in a chemistry program at his university. He can use that as defense. I doubt that he would be charged with
anything.
One case I heard was, and this is direct from the amateur chemist who posted this on another forum, they were doing some experiment. Since it was hot,
they left the front door open of their apartment. Some neighbor probably saw them and called the cops. They came, asked a lot of questions and they
left.
Don't do STUPID things.
Cover your ass.
Find some friends who love chemistry and start a club.
They will help you in court.
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Be careful with that T-shirt! ![:(](./images/smilies/sad.gif)
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=11192#...
The single most important condition for a successful synthesis is good mixing - Nicodem
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Yes, t-shirts can be trouble although I thought an Erlenmeyer flask with "Texas - It's Like a Whole Other Country" would be nice. It's their slogan
and all.
http://articles.latimes.com/1987-11-13/news/mn-13983_1_dalai...
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Check out the Comprehensive Methamphetamine Control Act of 1996.
If I remember it applies to all glass with ground joints.
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Texas
It is no big deal in Texas if you are LEGAL. Just download the application from the Department of Highways and they will come and check out the
address and issues you a permit.
[Edited on 17-4-2013 by cal]
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