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interesting sep. funnel adaptation
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last week some of my new toys arrived ![:)](./images/smilies/smile.gif)
a 50 cm vigreux column and a few sep. funnels.
the interesting thing is that the sep. funnels have a small horizontal groove in the ground glass top, just deep enough to make a small opening, end
the stoppers have a vertical groove from the bottom to the middle. it took me a while to figure out what they were, but then when i was washing them
it cane to me! if you align the two cuts they form a small opening so that air can get in the body of the sep. funnel so that the liquid inside can
drain out. and if you want to invert it you turn the stopper so that the cuts are not aligned and it's water/chemical proof.
Has anybody come across this before?
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Pretty cool euh? Sep funnels have come a long way
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Yea, I once had a few density bottles that had them. I only noticed it until the iodine I had in one of them started coming out of the opening!
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I wonder if the intended purpose of the adaptation is to prevent pressure build up from volatile solvents and gas-evolving reactions during shaking.
An adaptation to save one the effort of taking the stopper out seems a little excessive!
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nope dave angel. whatever you are using would leak out. I think it is so you can let something drain out without taking out the stopper. for something
like, say:Br2
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Yep, we got a few like that in the lab, but I never liked to work with them.... If you work fast and you miss the right position then your reaction
could easily end on you.
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odd. seems an eastern european thing. i got these from poland. nobody else seems to have heard of them!
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I kind of like it. Don't have to take the stopper off while separating. But then again there are two things to screw up instead of one (the stopcock
being open).
That cut in the glass looks really nasty and would weaken the joint. Don't want the top snapping off while using it!
My 1L crummy Bomex funnel was advertised as having something like that but didn't. Maybe the ebay store changed their supplier.
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Cute, I have seen similar things a few times before, but not often, and mostly on custom made items. But this one is different that what I have seen,
which is usually two holes that have to line up. A few glass stopcocks I have seen have those types of holes drilled into the stopcock itself, I
guess to make a 3 way from a 2 way or such.
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True Mr crow. But luckily you don't put the joint of a sep funnel under extreme conditions like you would a distillation joint, so i hope i will be
fine.
but i am quite pissed off at the seller for selling these as new, but it was less than 10$ for two so even if I lose them I will be ok.
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Useless, gas is evacuated from the main valve just bringing the funnel upside down.
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we (at least I did) meant when it's right way up you can open the stopcock without taking off the stopper. normally it would build up a vacuum and
flow very slowly and unevenly or even stop
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