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[*] posted on 30-8-2011 at 09:33


Apologies on the liberty with K2Co3 - I've been writing as KCo in my notes, which is sloppy. Again, not a chemist by trade.

Point well taken on playing with baking soda and vinegar (or drano and aluminum foil...) I had hoped that the simpler experiments I mentioned would be more interesting for a budding young pyrotechnician. Then again, I think balancing diffeqs can be stimulating, so take what I say with a grain of salt (your choice which kind)

So far as My KNO3 experiment goes I'm going to repeat it before I make a "real" post because it was 4 years ago and I wasn't taking great notes at the time. As I recall:

My main twist was using precomposted manure to assure the nitrification had already been taken care of, thus avoiding the real wait.

I made a large filter by flipping over a plastic carboy and cutting off the bottom. I stuck a microfibre colth over the mouth on the inside so the cloth lay well on both side s of the mouth. then I filled it with about 3" of mason sand. I ran water through this until the pH of the exit water was unchanged.

Then I made a slurry of the manure with limewater in a 5 gal pail (can't remember the ratios but it shouldn't be signifigant, so long as there's enough water to not get saturated. maybe 3 gal manure:2 gal limewater seems to make sense). I stuck a fishtank heater in it set to 70F (probably unnecessary) and let it sit overnight, stirring whenever I felt like it.

Next Day I poured the gack(no better word for it) through the sand filter. This is messy and I needed to muck out the filter a few times before I was done. I added a bunch of K2Co3 ( Actually, crude potash I had made earlier. The recipe. stipulated wood ash.). I stirred it and waited and hour for precipitation. I think I decanted it and left the last 1" or so of solution above the precipitate. It could just as easily have been filtered.

Then crystalized the KNO3. I can't recall the yield. It wasn't much but it was enough to make a couple of firecrackers (which I did later).

I took a twirl around the web, just now, to see if I had made any gross errors in recall. I'm surprised to have not found this method anywhere. I'm not sure where I got it from, now. It certainly isn't mine! (I'd love to take credit but I know I got it from someone else) . Iit seems a little modern for a "grandaddy's saltpeter" recipe.

Basically, the Calcium Carbonate goes to Calcium Nitrate and then swaps places with potassium as the K2Co3 is added, which immediately drops out of solution. I'll run the experiment again when I get time and post some pictures and proper quantities. It only took a weekend and it did work pretty well.


EDIT: Just worked out the metathesis (I get paranoid when I don't see lots of others doing something I've taken for granted these past few years)

Here we go:

1. NH4NO3 (already present in composted manure) dissolves in the limewater.

2. 2NH4NO3(aq)+Ca(OH)2(aq) => Ca(NO3)2 (aq) + 2NH4OH(aq)

3. filter and add K2CO3 (ash or chemical)

4. K2CO3(aq) + Ca(NO3)2(aq) => 2KNO3(aq) + CaCO3(s)

5. filter evaporate slowly, separate, recrystallize, etc etc etc.

I feel better now that I've worked out the reactions. As Mentioned I've done this but, well, you are a tough room :) I'll do it again and post more rigourous details when I get some free time <rueful sigh>


[Edited on 30-8-2011 by polaris96]

Last few edits werte to clear up my awful arithmetic in the metathesis coefficients


[Edited on 30-8-2011 by polaris96]
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