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I don't think they would because not even red fuming nitric acid ignites turpentine, it just sizzles and ejects the mixture giving off red gases.
Though there are some references that claim ignition with the latter, it doesn't happen in milligram amounts. You have to add KMnO4 to the fuming
acid. FeCl3 might work instead. Some other catalysts too.
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elemental sodium and elemental iodine forming NaI and im sure it ignites ill try it if i have any sodium left
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I recently made fire using Marquis reagent and Matches, does anyone know why exactly I made fire?
Knowledge is useless to useless people...
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fall of the ruling country, the people who think they can do whatever they want without anybody else's consent. I've seen this story
before."~Maynard James Keenan
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Quote: Originally posted by Sedit  | | I recently made fire using Marquis reagent and Matches, does anyone know why exactly I made fire? |
Marquis is mostly conc. H2SO4, so this formed ClO2 with the chlorate-containing match head. I would think that was most probably the cause of
ignition. The dioxide hypergoles with combustible materials (in this case, likely the combustibles in the match or the cellulose).
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Morgan
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Another odd way to start a fire would be to use an electric eel. I've read a few scant articles where it is just possible to produce a feeble spark
with an electric eel.
It would be nice to see a demonstration of such, say lighting a flammable gas.
"Indeed, a spark from the electric eel may be made visible and conducted in a circle as from an ordinary electrical machine. The creature has a
perfect galvanic apparatus extending from one end of its body to the other, supplied by two hundred and twenty-four pairs of nerves, which have no
other office but to energize this apparatus, thus affording the most positive proof that the nervous power is essential to its galvanic action."
http://psycnet.apa.org/books/12046/007
Drawing a spark from darkness: John Walsh and electric fish
http://web.unife.it/utenti/marco.piccolino/Epistem2007/Engl/...
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Every time I open a NiMH battery, even a depleted one, it bursts into flames after sitting out of its case a while. These have lots of energy in them.
hibernating...
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woelen
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Another nice experiment, which leads to fire on first contact:
http://woelen.homescience.net/science/chem/exps/raw_material...
It is a known one (nitromethane + sodium hydroxide). I made it somewhat more extreme by using Na2O instead of NaOH and using powder instead of prills.
With these, there is direct ignition on contact.
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Very nice! I'll try this reaction!
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Hello everyone. I bump this old thready because I do not want to see this project die, and I have spoken with NurdRage about the future of this.
I sent him a U2U with updated versions of my contributions (filmed better, larger amounts) and did not hear back, so I messaged him on youtube.
I don't see why I cant post the actual messages here but I will refrain unless requested to. He did not ask for the download links to my updated
videos and said "i'm not sure if/when i'll be back.". I really don't want to see this project die and ask him when he would know if he would be able
to continue the project. I told him if he was too busy to continue then I would volunteer to take over or help anyone else with more skill than me
get started editing. I understand my media production skills are mediocre so anyone else who would want to edit it will not hear any objection from
me. I received this in reply:
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I'm not certain what i'm going to do, life gets in the way too much. If you'd like to pick it up, by all means ask the forum thread if they would like
to let you do the editing. I didn't seize the copyright, they have full legal right to let you edit their work.
I'm not saying i'll drop it. i just don't know if i can continue with it.
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That was received a month and 5 days ago, so I thought it time to post on this thread. What are everyone's thoughts? Wait for NurdRage, edit it
ourselves? Something else?
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I'm not part of the collaboration, but I'm sure there are other projects that are much more worthwhile than making fire.
Don't get me wrong, this is still a nice project to try out, but there are certainly other videos you guys can work on, like making PbO2 anodes,
making alternate chemiluminescent compounds like DPO. There are dozens of videos NurdRage said he was working on but never got to finishing, even
after more than a year. As a video maker, I know how much time is needed to make a single video and I understand that he will need a ton of time to
finish them all. Perhaps hkparker and the rest could help him out with those videos instead if trying to make entirely new videos.
Just a thought.
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i think the anode is also good because alot has been written and said about them but a video would be great. as for going ahead with a video, why not?
if anyone can do it better or faster then fine. i already enjoyed watching everybody's videos that was posted here anyway.
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| Quote: Originally posted by hkparker | I sent him a U2U with updated versions of my contributions (filmed better, larger amounts) and did not hear back, so I messaged him on youtube.
I don't see why I cant post the actual messages here but I will refrain unless requested to. He did not ask for the download links to my updated
videos and said "i'm not sure if/when i'll be back.". I really don't want to see this project die and ask him when he would know if he would be able
to continue the project. |
There is good reason not to wait on someone who has explicitly absented himself
from this forum, who is declining to re-engage, and who is expressing no concrete interest in participating. Drop him. Get on with your project
without him.
If he comes back, perhaps because he feels he's missing out, do not give him control back. He's already abdicated (fool me once). You all would be
rash to allow him to take over after that (fool me twice).
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| Quote: Originally posted by watson.fawkes | | There is good reason not to wait on someone who has explicitly absented himself from this forum, who is declining to re-engage, and who is expressing
no concrete interest in participating. Drop him. Get on with your project without him. |
Fair enough.
While I agree this decision doesn't belong to me alone. I will be happy to pick up this project, but here's what I need:
Who, who has submitted before to this project, or who has not yet, would like to participate? Can you submit your videos to me? I could look up
through the thread but I know many submissions were done over U2U so it would be easiest to start over with me in U2U.
Would anyone else like to take over this project? Anyone who has some experience editing videos, at least more then me?
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It's great that you want to pick this project up again. I had actually forgotten about it, it's been so long. Shame that NurdRage disappeared so
suddenly and mysteriously.
I'd be fine sending my clips to you. We used some kind of file uploading site before, and that seemed to work out pretty well.
I like the anode collaboration idea, but we've already got a bunch of clips on this fire project so it would be a shame to let them go to waste. Ideas
for future collabs are good though!
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Thanks MrHomeScientist! If we get enough of the people who were a part of this project to submit again hopefully we can make this happen.
I will be providing ftp space for submissions.
FTP: hkparker.dyndns.org
Username: admin
password: sciencemadness
Just put everything in USB_Storage.
4GB at a time though! As soon as something is placed in there I will remove it and delete it to make room. Just let me know when you plan on making
a submission.
EDIT: DynDNS host name now online.
[Edited on 22-8-2011 by hkparker]
[Edited on 23-8-2011 by hkparker]
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Hk I'd like to help out with the project. I have some video editing experience, but would be willing to help if u need help with anything
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Thanks maverick! I can do some minor editing things (see my youtube channel) like stitching videos together, increasing playback speed, etc, but I'll
send any more complex work on to you!
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Please put a password on your FTP for uploads. It might get scanned by an automated tool and replaced by viruses, warez and porn. Why did you put a
USB key on sharing?
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I am a tad bit worried about it getting scanned but my routers only other option is its admin password. I suppose if I don't set it up for remote
admin and 80 is closed then it should matter. I will update it with a password soon.
I set up the ftp for convenience. I might make an actual server instead of my router for more security and the ability to make user accounts though.
Password added:
login: admin
password: sciencemadness
[Edited on 23-8-2011 by hkparker]
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Ah so your router has the FTP server on it? Usually its on your PC and your router forwards the ports to it. May have to use passive mode to connect
to it. FTP is really dumb
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It does, yes. I just put new RAM in this 15 year old laptop (oh yea) and installed openSUSE on it in the hopes it would make a better ftp server. It
was unstable as hell but I got it working. The hard drive is only 40GB so I dont thing its worth it to be running it instead of on my router though.
Its noisy and buggy, so I'll stick to my router for now.
I want to set up remote administration on my router because I'm leaving for college tomorrow but seeing as there is only one user account someone here
could nmap it and find the port I opened for remote admin, login, and change things.
You guys arn't that mean right? 
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I have some video editing experience and a YT channel as well, (although I'm not very proud of it).
If you guys need an extra hand, let me know, and I'd be happy to help out. I'm not a very good narrator, so I'd rather stick to video editing.
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Thank you.
Who's planning on resubmitting to this project?
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hk heres my contribution http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjtF-lRkgME, ill upload it to the ftp also
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Thanks maverick.
ftp might be having issues, sorry...
give it a try, if it doesn't work I'll fix it. youtube is a good option for giving me videos as well.
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