straightshot
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more advice
can anyone tell me where to find a good book to read and learn basic things a guy needs to know on chemys? and reactions?
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Sauron
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The forum library should keep you busy for a long time and cost you nothing.
Http://www.sciencemadness.org/library/
If you had to pick a good one to start with, go for PRACTCAL ORGANIC CHEMISTRY by A.F.Vogel, the 3ed edition is best.
[Edited on 5-3-2008 by Sauron]
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Depends what you want to know, be more specific. An excellent introductory book would be Clayden et. al Organic Chemistry.
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The two books above are great! Clayden was available a while back on gigapedia, and I believe it was in the references section as well.
All that remains is a good historical perspective to round out the practical and modern, and for that I recommend an early edition of Fieser &
Fieser's Organic chemistry
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straightshot
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some more advice
thank you for the good info on the books! i have one of them on order now. i guess i do need to be more specific about what i am looking for. i have
never taken a chem class but over the last nine years have been able to witness many reactions. so now i want to learn on my own! i am basicly wanting
to find some material to read and learn from.
all advice is appreciated
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There's an awful lot of basic stuff you should learn before tackling organic chemistry books like the above. You should understand the periodic table
at least as far as trends as one goes accross and down or up. There are the acid-base concepts, solutions and calculations. You must know what a
"mole" is and why that is important to know. You should know how electrons configure themselves in elements and in bonding. Without this
information organic would be too daunting and while you could learn to make a few things by rote, you won't have an understanding of what went into
the reactions. I recommend you start with the last book in our library and from there got to a college first course in chemistry text. We'll help
you get through it if you're sincere about wanting to learn.
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I suggest that you have a look at the following website:
http://www.chemguide.co.uk
It is a well-rounded introductory chemistry textbook presented as a series
of webpages. Since it is well-written and the different sections are reaonably
well-contained with prerequisites clearly marked, you can work your way
through it at your own pace in the order which works best for you. A
pleasant way to learn chemistry would be to read a page or two each day.
Also, as far as traditional printed books go, I would recommend "General
Chemistry" by Linus Pauling. Since it is reprinted by Dover, you can
purchase a copy for a reasonable price.
Once you make your way through one or both of these works, you will
have learned the basic stuff Chemrox was describing above and will
be in excellent shape to tackle more advanced, specialized books.
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straightshot
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just wondering
uncle festers 7 th edition ? good or bad info for a beginer ?
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Darkblade48
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....Horrible way to start off your time here in the ScienceMadness forums, I think.
I envision a vulture swooping down quickly to move this thread to detritus.
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A great character on The Addams Family, but as a chemist...?
Forget it.
Go have a look at the forum library, lots of great books for free download, and no Uncle Fester.
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