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[*] posted on 15-12-2007 at 17:14
is it possible to make Sodium Ethoxide w/ no elemental sodium is it possible


is it possible yes i did UTFSE and i know it does sounds like a n00b question and it sort-of is but please give be the awnser

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[*] posted on 15-12-2007 at 17:45


I don't know what YTFSE is, but you definitely didn't UTFSE as this has definitely been covered before. I'm not searching for it either, easier just to tell you the answer.


Yes you can make NaEtO without sodium, but it's only a small amount and it's governed by equilibrium. Meaning that you're not going to add NaOH, reflux, and then have pure NaEtO. For some reactions (like a transesterification of a fatty acid--biodiesel synth.) it works well, as more EtO- or MeO- is consumed, more is produced.

Sodium's easy enough to make or buy, there are threads here that deal with it.




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[*] posted on 15-12-2007 at 20:49


3A molecular sieves - Use slight excess necessary to absorb a stoichiometric amount of water formed from NaOH in EtOH. I posted a patent on this a while ago, search for molecular sieves and you'll find it. I believe it gave near quantitative yeilds for methanol and ethanol.

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[*] posted on 16-12-2007 at 08:51


https://sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=2656

You didn't UTFSE, so don't lie. You're just being lazy, as this was the first hit before you started your thread when searching for "sodium ethoxide".

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