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[*] posted on 29-8-2017 at 17:52
would this sort of pump be useful for vacuum distillation


would a pump like this be suitable for vacuum distillation or is it only designed for vacuum filtration?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/151238475938

if not could someone show me a cheap example of what would suffice

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[*] posted on 29-8-2017 at 18:20


I have one very similar (at least in appearance). I use it only for vacuum distillations and after many runs it will still pull 0.050-0.075 mm Hg vacuum. I almost always have to bleed it as it pulls to well. The oil capacity is small so oil needs to be changed after every couple of uses. Because of the small oil capacity, it is NOT suitable for vacuum filtration. It will go to hell pretty fast. If you bleed it too much to try to use it for filtration it will make way to much noise and belch oil fumes. My pump operates best below 5 mm Hg.

For vacuum filtration I suggest you try to find a used recirculating aspirator pump. They are somewhat pricey but worth every dime. It will also work well distillations at 10mm Hg and up. If you have cheap water, you could just attach an aspirator to a sink faucet for filtration.

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[*] posted on 30-8-2017 at 01:12


At about 600 Pa (4.5 mm Hg), Water will evaporate cooling the bulk of it until it freezes.

The pump refered to has a rated pressure of 2 Pa, so a lot of air-leak OR a pressure regulation system would be required.

It also means that you would need cryogenic cooling for your condenser(s) for most solvents.
For us amateurs cryogenic cooling is somewhat inconvenient so distillations are best performed at reduced pressure but not at very low pressures.
So far, for vacuum filtration and 'vacuum' distillation I have been using my little vacuum pump http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Multi-Function-DC-12V-Micro-Piston...
even though I have a dual-stage rotary capable of <1 Pa.

The same constraints apply to vacuum filtration;
if the pressure is too low the solvent will boil.




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[*] posted on 31-8-2017 at 14:31


In addition to an Edwards RV12 pump (expensive), I use something similar to this as it is much smaller and can sit inside the fume hood and I don't mind if it gets a bit trashed.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vacuum-Pump-2-Stage-for-A-C-Refri...:oacAAOSw241Ygb6a

I also have a -105 chiller to condense stray vapours and protect the pump seals and oil.

Rotary vane pumps are not suitable for filtration. Pretty much any low boiling solvent (less than 100C) is going to boil violently at room temperature under a vacuum of this strength (<1 torr). Use a PTFE diaphragm pump for filtration/evaporation of solvents (Vacuubrand, KNF, Buchi etc)





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