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Powerful oxidizers
The perbromate ion needs fluorine added to sodium bromate to form or Diperiodatonickelate which means it is a stronger oxidizer than perbromate
Which oxidizer could be powerful enough to displace fluorine from fluoride
2F2(g) + 2H2O(l) → O2(g) + 4HF(aq)
It is able to oxidize water
Diperiodatonickelate is it powerful enough
Perbromate
superoxide
Ozone
Peroxide
Persulfate
Bismuthate
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Potassium hexafluoromanganate will do it with antimony pentafluoride.
Supposedly, hydrogen peroxide can do it with hydrogen fluoride under hard-to-attain conditions. Water has to be removed somehow.
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=64387
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Quote: Originally posted by JJay  | | Supposedly, hydrogen peroxide can do it with hydrogen fluoride under hard-to-attain conditions. |
It is not peroxide that is the oxidant there.
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Oh? Explain.
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The source of high oxidation state manganese is permanganate.
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If you read through the thread, you'll see that there's a discussion of using anhydrous hydrogen peroxide in the absence of permanganate to produce
fluorine. The major problem with this is that water reacts with fluorine to produce IIRC ozone and hydrogen fluoride, so water has to be removed
immediately.
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Anhydrous hydrogen peroxide yea that is hard to believe what was used moleculer sievies or a desicant. Hydrogen peroxide and water are so mercible and
probally peroxide has an unbreakable azotrope. Now that I think of it if fluorine reacts with water how can I believe the patent. I wander what the
yield is. Ive done the whole distill under vaccum low pressure which distills the water leaving the peroxide behind concentrated to 30 percent you
distill the water off the peroxide wants to follow.
The lower the pressure the better.
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Damn I guess im wrong
Hydrogen peroxide is one of the most versatile oxidation reagents, still it has not fully been exploited by synthetic chemists since anhydrous (let
alone pure) hydrogen peroxide requires hazardous preparation protocols. We have recently reported on the crystallization of serine and other amino
acid perhydrates, thus paving the way for a new method for laboratory-scale production of anhydrous hydrogen peroxide solutions. Serine is insoluble
in most organic solvents (e.g., methanol, ethyl acetate, and methyl acetate) that readily dissolve hydrogen peroxide. Moreover, since the adduct of
hydrogen peroxide and serine is unstable in these organic solvents, crystalline serine perhydrate readily decomposes to give anhydrous solutions of
hydrogen peroxide and crystalline precipitate of the amino acid. This procedure can then yield an anhydrous hydrogen peroxide solution in a single
step. Moreover, filtration of the amino acid, and room temperature evaporation of the volatile solvent (e.g., methyl acetate), yields over 99%
hydrogen peroxide.
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And
GNC Phosphatidyl Serine 300 mg Capsules,
I think I found a source
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