Baphomet
Hazard to Others
Posts: 211
Registered: 19-11-2006
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Odour Control
Here's version 1 of my document on how to construct an odour control apparatus that is particularly useful in small scale labs. Word format is
available on request.
Attachment: Odour Control Apparatus.pdf (114kB) This file has been downloaded 2550 times
|
|
chromium
Hazard to Others
Posts: 284
Registered: 27-6-2005
Member Is Offline
Mood: reactive
|
|
Simple but great idea. Maybe some others already knew this but for me it was new. I like that it can actually be used by hobby chemists.
When all think alike, then no one is thinking. - Walter Lippmann
|
|
Baphomet
Hazard to Others
Posts: 211
Registered: 19-11-2006
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Thanks! Yes it's very simple but effective. I thought of it after evaporating HCl-laden mixtures in my kitchen a few times and noticing that it had
partially corroded every metal thing in sight
|
|
12AX7
Post Harlot
Posts: 4803
Registered: 8-3-2005
Location: oscillating
Member Is Offline
Mood: informative
|
|
Does it necessarily suck, though?
I do recall the toilet bowl levels appear about a half inch lower on gusty days.
Tim
|
|
Baphomet
Hazard to Others
Posts: 211
Registered: 19-11-2006
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
That's caused by a pressure differential between entry point and vent stack but I wouldn't rely on it. I'd use odour control in series with an
aspirator or vacuum pump if a reliable vacuum was required.
|
|
The_Davster
A pnictogen
Posts: 2861
Registered: 18-11-2003
Member Is Offline
Mood: .
|
|
I like the idea, abusing the drainage system for improvising ventilation. I would like a way to suck fumes out without using a stream of water
however. Perhaps several small fans, or if I can obtain a cheap air pump of sorts.
|
|
Magpie
lab constructor
Posts: 5939
Registered: 1-11-2003
Location: USA
Member Is Offline
Mood: Chemistry: the subtle science.
|
|
I agree that using the existing household vent stack system for releasing vapors is a clever approach. It's low cost using existing infrastructure,
and provides excellent camoflage.
I don't see why you couldn't pump gases into this system as long as any pressure buildup did not exeed the 2 or 3 inches of static water head in the
gooseneck traps of the sinks and toilets. If this pressure is exceeded then, well, let's just say I wouldn't want to be taking a dump when you are
making nitric acid.
If one could tie-in to the vapor stack itself, well away from the traps this shouldn't be a problem unless you are pushing a high volume flow of gases
into the system.
The single most important condition for a successful synthesis is good mixing - Nicodem
|
|
Baphomet
Hazard to Others
Posts: 211
Registered: 19-11-2006
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Thanks I hope it helps out. There's another thread on here that discusses vacuum pumps:
https://sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=6968#pid7...
On another note there have been some more observations since the first version of the document:
1. A wider hole of 10 mm diameter was drilled in the drain pipe so that the black automotive tubing could be inserted straight in without the 6mm
flanged insert. Faster evaporation rates were observed due to a higher throughput of vapour.
2. Boiling hot acid - in this case HCl - at a fast rate caused the PVC drain pipe to soften. This was alarming to say the least. If the rate of boil
is kept low it does not seem to be an issue.
|
|
Baphomet
Hazard to Others
Posts: 211
Registered: 19-11-2006
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
BTW Magpie I saw your writeup on building a fume hood and was very impressed. It's something to aspire to.
|
|
Polverone
Now celebrating 21 years of madness
Posts: 3186
Registered: 19-5-2002
Location: The Sunny Pacific Northwest
Member Is Offline
Mood: Waiting for spring
|
|
Nice work. Your article has been added to the member publications. Let me know if you produce a revised/expanded version that should take its place.
PGP Key and corresponding e-mail address
|
|
Baphomet
Hazard to Others
Posts: 211
Registered: 19-11-2006
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Thanks will do
|
|
MadHatter
International Hazard
Posts: 1339
Registered: 9-7-2004
Location: Maine
Member Is Offline
Mood: Enjoying retirement
|
|
Ventilation
Quote: |
let's just say I wouldn't want to be taking a dump when you are making nitric acid.
|
ROFLMAO ! Magpie, you certainly have a sense of humor !
I find that my exhaust fan in the window does just fine. If it's too obnoxious, I'll conduct the
experiment out in my shed if possible. BTW, if the fans go up, they're cheap enough to
replace.
From opening of NCIS New Orleans - It goes a BOOM ! BOOM ! BOOM ! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !
|
|
Levi
Hazard to Others
Posts: 196
Registered: 24-1-2007
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Genius.
Chemcrime does not entail death. Chemcrime is death.
|
|