alking
Hazard to Others
Posts: 252
Registered: 11-3-2016
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
My teflon stopcock is leaking, is there anyway to fix this?
So I just noticed today there is a small leak on my sep funnel's stopcock. I thought I noticed it before but wasn't sure until I left a solution in it
overnight to find a puddle down below and staining along the side. It's my understanding that you grease glass stopcocks and teflon ones are simply
supposed to work, however mine seems poorly manufactured. Am I sol or is there something I can do? I can't seem to get it out to actually apply
grease, but I'm hoping maybe there's some tricks I haven't picked up yet.
|
|
Magpie
lab constructor
Posts: 5939
Registered: 1-11-2003
Location: USA
Member Is Offline
Mood: Chemistry: the subtle science.
|
|
You should be able to disassemble the stopcock easily. I usually disassemble mine after using so everything can be easily cleaned. When reassembling
I leave it loosely assembled for storage. I tighten it appropriately just before use.
I bought a used Pyrex 125 ml separatory funnel off eBay. It leaked. I replaced the teflon stopcock with a spare I had on hand. It works well now
and doesn't leak.
The single most important condition for a successful synthesis is good mixing - Nicodem
|
|
Loptr
International Hazard
Posts: 1348
Registered: 20-5-2014
Location: USA
Member Is Offline
Mood: Grateful
|
|
I have a few different brands of separatory funnels, and they typically come with instructions of how to prepare them for use. The set of instructions
that I can recall says to not grease it, but to start off with a very thorough cleaning with a solvent followed a sort-of wearing down of the stopcock
by rotating it within the glassware's stopcock hole until there is a very snug fit. I thought it was snug enough to begin with, but I have noticed
that DCM solutions have noticeably leaked out over the course of a day or so. I assume this is due to the density of DCM, and would imagine something
like bromine would be even worse.
I believe those instructions were for a Pyrex separatory funnel.
[Edited on 30-3-2016 by Loptr]
|
|
chemrox
International Hazard
Posts: 2961
Registered: 18-1-2007
Location: UTM
Member Is Offline
Mood: LaGrangian
|
|
1) no you never grease a ptfe stopcock. The point of using ptfe is to *avoid* greasing. 2) you shouldn't leave a sep funnel overnight with contents in
it. 3) if you must leave contents in the apparatus at least put a beaker under it. Reagents cost more and more every year. It's a shame to waste them
this way.
Were you trying to "wait out" an emulsion? I do this for that reason and pretty much only that reason. Sometimes vibration and/or washing with
saturated NaCl solution can help break up an emulsion.
Since this new to you, disassemble the apparatus, clean it well including the stopcock, check the "O" rings and replace if indicated. Indicated by
obvious wear, compression, ugliness, etc.
Re-assemble and check that t doesn't leak in an obvious manner. Overnight small puddles don't count. Always have some sort of vessel under the funnel
and leave the stopper out except during active use such as running an extraction or washing a solution.
[Edited on 30-3-2016 by chemrox]
"When you let the dumbasses vote you end up with populism followed by autocracy and getting back is a bitch." Plato (sort of)
|
|
organicchemist25
Hazard to Others
Posts: 136
Registered: 12-2-2014
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
I had the same issue with a PTFE stopcock. It must have been defective in sizing or had maybe a damaged spot on it. I just ordered another one and it
works great. Definitely think a new stopcock should fix it. If not, it would have to be the cone shape is defective in the sep funnel itself.
|
|
organicchemist25
Hazard to Others
Posts: 136
Registered: 12-2-2014
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
I had the same issue with a PTFE stopcock. It must have been defective in sizing or had maybe a damaged spot on it. I just ordered another one and it
works great. Definitely think a new stopcock should fix it. If not, it would have to be the cone shape is defective in the sep funnel itself.
|
|
alking
Hazard to Others
Posts: 252
Registered: 11-3-2016
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Yeah, I'm thinking it might just be defective and could use a replacement. I did not know it was bad pactrice to leave a solution in a sep funnel, but
I will keep that in mind for the future, I want to take care of my equipment. Mine had no instructions, it was an ebay purchase from china, new, but
sometimes the quality is lacking and this may be one of those cases. I can tighten it to the point it's hard to turn and it still leaks. I'll see if I
can dissassemble and clean it or failing that replace it to ressolve the issue. DCM is actually the first thing I noticed leaking in it as well, some
time ago, but had not noticed a problem with other solvents until this event, or at least significant enough to realize it was a leak as opposed to a
spill. Fortunately this was just methanol so nothing particularly toxic or valuable, and only a few ml at that I would wager. Btw, why is it a bad
practice to keep the glass stopper in it when not in use?
|
|