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Best TATP synthesis conditions
For a while, I've seen some videos on youtube, and read some articles on the web about Acetone peroxide; I'm trying to reach the best
way to synthesize and handle it.
The most interesting information about AP synthesis I found, was in the paper called:
Factors Influencing TATP and DADP Formation (Two Parts).
So, I tried to get the best conditions to synthesize pure TATP according to that paper; And I had the following:
Molar ratios:
1 mole Hydrogen peroxide,
1 mole Acetone, and
0.8 mole Sulfuric acid.
Concentrations:
1 litre Water for each 10 to 30 moles Hydrogen peroxide (Higher concentrations is preferred).
1 litre Water for each 1 to 5 moles Sulfuric acid (Lower concentrations is preferred).
Procedure:
Add sulfuric acid to HP/Acetone mixture, keeping temperature at 5C for about 24 hours.
Also I found that adding about 15mL of Methanol (or Ethanol) for each 0.1 mole of acid helps well to retard decomposition of TATP formed into DADP;
But I'm not sure about the ratio, and don't know when to be added.
I'll be very pleased discussing these ratios and procedure, specially for those who read the paper before or have some experience dealing with AP.
I know it's so dangerous, so I'm trying to do my best before proceeding.
Thanks.
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There's lots of literature in the subject and no need to make a new thread.
There's little more to disscus about the raitos as you asked no questions.
The only safe way to handle AP is not to handle it! It's very unpredictable and sometimes can survive moderate shock and the next minute explode in
your hand at the slightest movement. I recommend that you stay away from it. MEKP is just as easy to make, and is much more stable, try that if you
must.
[Edited on 21-12-2014 by Zyklon-A]
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Thanks about MEKP recommendation; I think it will help.
I didn't find alot of literature, may be my sources didn't help; I searched some sites, and also looked in COPAE, Urbanski's. If there is a
recommended literature I'll be pleased to know it.
Also, I need to know if these ratios are the best to get TATP or I messed the point while reading the paper; It's a study concern for me.
Moreover, explaining the Alcohol addition will be very helpful.
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Zyklon-A
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No problem. Here's a recent MEKP synthesis thread
Be safe! It's more stable than AP but still not super stable.
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Hi- Welcome to sciencemadness.org
Read the FAQ BEFORE starting a new thread outside of beginnings. MOST especially in EM.
Remember:
It is ALLWAYS better to post in an existing thread than to open a new one!.
After you have researched the existing site threads on peroxides, select which one you would like your thread to be merged with, PM me with that
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[Edited on 22-12-2014 by Bert]
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