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zenosx
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I'm sorry, but I take arkoma's view on this matter. I also dealt with a seller on here that I was purchasing around $50+shipping U.S. of TLC plates
from. They were also being shipping from Within the US, no international mess. I paid for them in April. Come August of that year (2013), I still had
Nothing. No contact, and when I would U2U or Email him, I would get either Nothing or Excuses. As a buyer that gets old Very Fast.
In this age of overnight shipping to any place on the globe, taking money + shipping from a buyer and then saying (It will be there within the month)
is unacceptable. I get international shipping, and that should be taken into account, but the seller should relay that to the buyer, NOT the other way
around.
All in all, it had me starting Paypal grievances against my seller before he finally shipped me product (which miraculously arrived within THREE days
of shipping...) I waited 6 Months patiently, but in the end, he tried to make me feel like I was the asshole for starting litigation against my
purchase price. He even threw in some sob story about how he "didn't have a car and had to walk 1/4 a mile to the post office in snow to ship it out
to me".. Well.. If you aren't Capable to Ship Product, Don't Offer It for Sale! It's a pretty simple concept to master...
Just know who is bad and who is good. You've let us know what to expect. Don't deal with them again. I will also note that I had previously had a
transaction with this individual that went off without a hitch and shipping was in the order of hours, not months...U2U if you want who it is, but I
won't slander their name here as he (finally) owned up my purchase.
A question that sometimes drives me hazy: am I or are the others crazy?
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zenosx
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I'm sorry but I also agree with the undersigned. If you are selling something, you should be prepared to deliver it in a timely matter. The fact that
it is "just a hobby" doesn't in any way correlate to "you should expect this"... That almost comes close to saying "well you do drugs so you should
expect to be ripped off from time to time"... Just my two cents....
Quote: Originally posted by The Volatile Chemist  | Arkoma, you may have a right to be mad, but you aught to know better. You can say F+, and that would be sufficient to deter. You don't have to 'dis'
the person. Unless your friend is asking you to complain, and I'm pretty sure I know who it is (And he aughtn't either, you both are MEN for crying
out loud!), you shouldn't complain for lateness. You aught to know that chemistry is JUST a hobby for you, YOU yourself aren't even loosing money from
the lateness. Also, you should contact him via U2U from now on, you've already rated him F+, so unless you want to change the rating, stick to PM-ing.
Don't get mad at me for this, either arkoma. This guys' just as likely to win the nobel in chem. as me, like you keep telling the young-folk. He may
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A question that sometimes drives me hazy: am I or are the others crazy?
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Hmm, I'm not a good planifier, nor a good seller, but this thread is going nowhere. I got the point, money planning.
Even if it does not make it right, I got a few main reasons:
- Paying for college was/is way more expensive then planned.
- I am actually have much less time then I used to have
- International shipping is a fucking pain in the ass, won't do it again after the trades left, unless it is for bare metal or anything non-reactive.
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The Mistake is simply Lack of Communication.
Talk to people.
Simply Talking can buy lots and lots of Time,and they don't get all nasty on you.
Obviously there are Limits, but Talking really really Helps.
Edit:
Work it out, and Learn.
The Lessons will Help you later on in life, for sure.
[Edited on 7-10-2014 by aga]
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aga
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You're a USA dweller maybe ?
No, stuff does not get to some parts of the Globe as fast as you might assume.
Weeks is Good for where i am in the 3rd World.
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The Volatile Chemist
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Where are you aga??? Didn't know you were third-world...
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zenosx
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And no, I made comment of that in fact. When I order from China or Thailand for example, I do not expect anything for at a minimum of 1 to 2 months.
And I do order from there, and if I get it in 6 weeks I am happy...
I think the biggest point to be made from this entire thread is...If you are going to sell on here... just stay in contact with your buyers.. Let them
know what you are going through,, college tuition.. etc... however, if someone does purchase something from you + shipping,,, you can't use shipping
cost as an excuse... they paid for it, you should have charged more...
All the same, the seller here is a well known and respected member of the community so this could have been handled better...
The end all of this entire thread is to just Communicate with your Buyers and the Sellers!
Using Dr. Bob as an example, he always lets me know whats' going on, what to expect, etc. I always shoot him a message that I got what he sent, he
tells me that it's sent, etc.
Communication is Key,, that is all...
| Quote: Originally posted by aga |
You're a USA dweller maybe ?
No, stuff does not get to some parts of the Globe as fast as you might assume.
Weeks is Good for where i am in the 3rd World. |
A question that sometimes drives me hazy: am I or are the others crazy?
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arkoma
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still nothing...................
"We believe the knowledge and cultural heritage of mankind should be accessible to all people around the world, regardless of their wealth, social
status, nationality, citizenship, etc" z-lib
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The Volatile Chemist
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Ouch.
OK Plante!!!!! Now's a good time!!!
Sorry for supporting plante arkoma. You really need to pull through plante... We all have school to deal with (Well, not arkoma, but), You'd best send
him his stuff. At worst, at least give the paperwork to someone so they can fill it out.
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plante1999
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Arkoma, I said you will get the things within the month, and you will.
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Have you kept Arkoma apprised of when specifically you were intending to/did ship? Is payijg for shipping really the rate limiting step here? You keep
mentioning international shipping, but is it just the additional costs you didn't anticipate and can't pay at the moment (a potentially unrelated
issue)? That might be part of the communication. I know that planning things, much less working during school can be difficult (been there), but these
are essentially universal problems people deal with in first world countries. You should try to keep six months cash in savings for unemployment or
issues such as this. It doesn't make any less important or impactful for you, but you should try to keep in mind that others have had to solve the
problems you are dealing with, and you can learn from their problems to avoid some of your own.
I don't intend to keep making light of the situation, but Arkoma could have invested the money for three months and made some pittance off it, but
instead this is like an interest free loan for you to get paid in advance, and deliver along the way. That is the financial opportunity cost
assessment.
edit: and since you mentioned money a few times, you might stock up on college classics like ramen and peanut butter and jelly. Lots of carbs for a
low price
[Edited on 21-10-2014 by Chemosynthesis]
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The Volatile Chemist
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I get your points chemo, but:
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In college????? Yeah right, did you do that? That's pretty darn optimistic, to keep that much money in store, especially since he's starting out.
Regardless, hopefully he get's it. If not...
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plante1999
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Hey, I'm shipping the last batch tonight at 8h00 (-5 GTM).
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arkoma
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I'd say "Thank You", but that is generally reserved for good service in the business world. And you'd still be trying to piece it off if I had known
how long the wait was going to be. *sigh* But all BS aside, I am glad no longer have to be "mad" at you. It's work being upset.
Hope you do well in school, and I don't bear grudges kid.
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Spoil sport
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Chemosynthesis
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| Quote: Originally posted by The Volatile Chemist | I get your points chemo, but:
| Quote: | | keep six months cash |
In college????? Yeah right, did you do that? That's pretty darn optimistic, to keep that much money in store, especially since he's starting out.
Regardless, hopefully he get's it. If not... |
I sure did. Saved since highschool, ate mostly ramen, stayed off the overpriced school meal plans, got a scholarship, etc. The biggest issue in
college is keeping expenses down, since income will likely be limited with time spent in classes.
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