Sciencemadness Discussion Board
Not logged in [Login ]
Go To Bottom

Printable Version  
Author: Subject: How to measure evaporated water in a reduction
hankxmen
Harmless
*




Posts: 9
Registered: 26-2-2013
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 18-3-2013 at 04:27
How to measure evaporated water in a reduction


Didn't realize i need to distill to measure water evaporated from a reduction using hydrazine hydrate. I am suppose to remove 30 ml but do not have a flask with a side take off. I know i could just evaporate the solution open but i would have no way to be sure how much is evaporated. Is distilling the only way to go? Any other way to measure?
View user's profile View All Posts By User
Mailinmypocket
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 1351
Registered: 12-5-2011
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 18-3-2013 at 04:43


Quote: Originally posted by hankxmen  
Didn't realize i need to distill to measure water evaporated from a reduction using hydrazine hydrate. I am suppose to remove 30 ml but do not have a flask with a side take off. I know i could just evaporate the solution open but i would have no way to be sure how much is evaporated. Is distilling the only way to go? Any other way to measure?


You could weigh the flask you are evaporating the water from before and during the process. Pure distilled Water weighs 1g/ml. So remove 30g from your flask and you should be close to your target. If there are other volatiles in there then this obviously won't work and you would need something like a trap to measure the water removed etc. perhaps if you gave us more details on what chemicals are involved?

[Edited on 18-3-2013 by Mailinmypocket]
View user's profile View All Posts By User
hankxmen
Harmless
*




Posts: 9
Registered: 26-2-2013
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 18-3-2013 at 04:59


haung minglon modification. wolf kishner reduction (i apologize i did not include that in my first post) the evaporation of the water from the hydrazine hydrate happens after 1 hour of reflux. Nothing explosive but hydrazine is poisonous. So.
View user's profile View All Posts By User
hankxmen
Harmless
*




Posts: 9
Registered: 26-2-2013
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 18-3-2013 at 11:33
Oxygen ruining solution during evaporation?


If i need to distill 30 ml of diethylene glycol and koh
and do so without distilling 30 ml and evaporate - will oxygen be absored into my solution and destroy it?:o

[Edited on 18-3-2013 by hankxmen]
View user's profile View All Posts By User
zed
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 2283
Registered: 6-9-2008
Location: Great State of Jefferson, City of Portland
Member Is Offline

Mood: Semi-repentant Sith Lord

[*] posted on 19-3-2013 at 13:15


What is your solvent? Just evaporating may, or may not be an option.

Get better glassware.
View user's profile View All Posts By User
ScienceSquirrel
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 1863
Registered: 18-6-2008
Location: Brittany
Member Is Offline

Mood: Dogs are pets but cats are little furry humans with four feet and self determination! :(

[*] posted on 19-3-2013 at 13:52


In a situation like this it is best to distill off and collect the liquor.
Just boiling it off is asking for trouble.
It might work but it is harder to work out what is happening and you might have fumes from the hydrazine.
At the end of the day, doing it the right way with good equipment is better than trying to wing it.
View user's profile View All Posts By User
Nicodem
Super Moderator
Thread Moved
20-3-2013 at 08:30
Nicodem
Super Moderator
Threads Merged
20-3-2013 at 08:31

  Go To Top