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Stove black powder
hello, as you might know great ideas comes without you trying to actually make it, in this case whats being used is:
tissue paper
stove (hot plate)
KNO3 (other nitrates could possibly substitute it)
sugar (granulated)
this stuff is incredible!! its very easy to granulate, and it can be made in amounts about lets say.. few grammes in 10 minutes, granulated, sort of..
a pile of 0.5 or 1g was completely gone into smoke and carbon burns in less than a half second!!
now you might wanna hear how i accidentally made this..
i was making paperfuses according to the way /tittytwister5251 (an youtube user) did it..
as i was drying the paperfuses on my stove the paper that got stuck was turning into charcoal.. ohwell.. so i scraped it together in a tiny pile and
ignited it.. *WOOF*
now to how to make it. its fairly easy, and should be mastered very quickly aswell..
take 1 teaspoon of kno3 and dump into a small beaker or whatever that can withstand about 100*C
then take 1 teaspoon of granulated sugar, use abit less than 1 teaspoon
take some water into it and start heating it till it dissolves.. fully dissolves..
if a layer of crystals starts forming when you blow at the surface of this, add a few drops of water till this effect doesnt happen anymore,
experiment with concentrations etc!
now take the wettened tissue paper (i had it on heat setting ''1'' thats something above 100*C)
it will instantly boil, flatten the paper out somehow and let it become dried, when it starts to get brown take it off, while its in the air you can
quickly feel it hardens
now wetten it once more in the still hot kno3/sugar water
onto hot plate again, flatten out and let it darken as much as you desire (again experiment with this stuff!)
when you think its darkened enough take it off, let it cool abit, break it into smaller pieces in your hand, and pour it onto your hotplate again..
you could also let it turn fully into charcoal.. now gather a pile of this on your hotplate, it should be rough granules at this point, and ignite it,
AND stand abit back.
i hope you guys find some great use for this, and definately that you try it..
also be abit responsible with this, the cooled granulate can possibly be powdered to a finer powder, perhaps even ballmilled to exceed any blackpowder
that has been made yet..
this doesnt have the bad sulfur smell
please try this and tell me what you think (;
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I've noticed that I can melt mixture of sodium nitrite and charcoal. It burned faster then all my previous BP but that doesn't mean it's better
material then well made BP. Are you sure you can make new KNO3 based composition that's really faster then BP? On the hot plate it can burn very fast
because it's pre heated.
Btw is charcoal made from toilet paper good?
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| Quote: | | . . . as i was drying the paperfuses on my stove the paper that got stuck was turning into charcoal.. ohwell.. so i scraped it together in a tiny
pile and ignited it.. *WOOF* |
BP with partially carbonised material was known as "cocoa powder".
It was slower than regular BP but was very vulnerable to ignition by static . . .
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Fantasma4500
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Quote: Originally posted by Ral123  | I've noticed that I can melt mixture of sodium nitrite and charcoal. It burned faster then all my previous BP but that doesn't mean it's better
material then well made BP. Are you sure you can make new KNO3 based composition that's really faster then BP? On the hot plate it can burn very fast
because it's pre heated.
Btw is charcoal made from toilet paper good? |
that might play a role, but still (im linking a video for you guys to see) when i used KNO3 for it, it was very fast..
i dont think its the best charcoal type, but i think whats important in this is that the material thats getting turned into charcoal is SOAKED in KNO3
/ sugar
i doubt you can find some balsa tissue paper (;
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| Quote: Originally posted by hissingnoise | | Quote: | | . . . as i was drying the paperfuses on my stove the paper that got stuck was turning into charcoal.. ohwell.. so i scraped it together in a tiny
pile and ignited it.. *WOOF* |
BP with partially carbonised material was known as "cocoa powder".
It was slower than regular BP but was very vulnerable to ignition by static . . .
yes, thats somewhat related to what i made, except for that the tissue paper that was going to be charred was already soaked in KNO3 / sugar, which i
think makes the big difference..
this is the link to my video, its a hidden video so you need the link to see it..
http://youtu.be/hL6g0A8KvPs
0:18 is what im talking about..
i might do some tests where its not preheated..
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Commercial BP has a burn-rate of ~30fps but homemade BP can approach this rate when milled, pressed and corned.
The high friction sensitivity of cocoa powder (it can ignite when shaken in a canvas bag) is a major drawback!
http://www.brianredmond.net/dwilliams/blackpowder/blackpowde...
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Fantasma4500
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oh yes, but then again this is sulfurless blackpowder.. (:
i havent tested for sensitivity, as ive only made this once, or well more than once but within a few hours, im gonna make some again after NYE and
test it, also cool it below -0*C
also im thinking of make some under-fueled golden powder and use the same method as with stove BP, as it might be alot faster than with sugar.. just
recrystallized golden powder is quite fast already..
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as promised i tested it out, when it was cooled down.. there sure was some difference, burn rate was about one third of what it was on stove, and
somewhat acted as rocket fuel when ignited in a tube, dont know how it will act under pressure, but i still believe that it can be used in the way of
making black powder, and then ballmilling or grinding it together and perhaps granulating..
a simple sulfurless black powder
i tried with ascorbic acid aswell, underfueled golden powder.. it wasnt that great, infact about same burn speed as the stove BP if not abit slower
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