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Tragic!
Un-FUCKING-believable! :@
I FINALLY get the new CPU's sent to me, and it seems that when the CPU's died a surge (unlikely) or something caused the hard drive to die.
There isn't any power going to the actual drive.
So, I have two possible resolutions to these problems.
Ask a company to retrieve the data. At a cost of £465. Or find the right tools (easily done) and uncover the drive and swap the hard drive platters
out and put them into another exact modal drive and see if that works.
Otherwise, all the information on the FTP is lost. Not to mention a large collection of my stuff, personal photo's, videos, files, emails,
links... the list goes on!
So, is the data justified to me forking out £465? Or would/can the data be got back from other sources easier?
I don't mind laying out the cash. After all it's only money, but that's two weeks pay, maybe a month's pay if I add all my bills
to that as well.
Does anyone else know any other data recovery specialists that can recover data from failed drives?
The £465 quote has been the cheapist I can find. From http://www.disklabs.com
They seem a pretty good company, and I've a friend whom's company has used them for data recovery from failed tape drives.
Said they were fast, and met their needs down to the letter.
So, I leave the answers to you lot now. I can get another drive as it's still under warranty. But I this is the third fucking time! I
won't be used Western Digital drives again!
I can get a backup copy of everything that was/is on the Roguesci FTP pretty easily. So would there be anything that was/is on our FTP that would have
been lost?
I'm all for trying to get the data back, but if there is a cheaper alternative, I'm all ears!
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Organikum
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I dont buy the story. Sorry.
But there should be some backups around - not at mine, the CDs you sent me were mostly unreadable.
Other might have had more luck, they can copy the CDs and send them to you again if you have no backup CDs by your own for what reson ever.
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What do you mean you don't buy the story?
Org, I never sent you any CD's?!
[Edited on 9-6-2004 by Eliteforum]
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tom haggen
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wa wa wa wa........
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Quantum
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Why don't you belive him? Hes not asking for money.
On a similar(tragic) note:
My expensive as hell Corning hotplate/stirrer stopped working!!
Both the stirrer and the hot plate both just stopped working! I had got a bit of NaOH on the plate but it did not eat through it or anything like that
so I would think it would not damage anything. The power light still comes on.
THIS PISSES ME OFF! To even get them to look at it costs 100$ Any one have any ideas on how to test it or repair it?
What if, what is isn\'t true?
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chemoleo
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I also don't see what there is that you wouldnt buy?!? I dont understand this 
PS regarding your stirrer - it couldnt be more off topic lol... but just open up the damn thing. If both stirrer and heater dont work, there is a
common cause, which is most likely easily fixed.
Could be a fallen off wire, an internal fuse, anything! Just open it, understand the circuitry (which should be very simple) and I am sure u will find
the problem.
Never Stop to Begin, and Never Begin to Stop...
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axehandle
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FINALLY get the new CPU's sent to me, and it seems that when the CPU's died a surge (unlikely) or something caused the hard drive to die.
There isn't any power going to the actual drive.
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No. A CPU dying couldn't cause a power surge to the hard drive, simply because the former doesn't contain any voltage dividers/doublers or
transformers. The PSU on the other hand _could_ be the cause of a surge, if the power grid is VERY shoddy or if lightning struck the power lines.
Normally, but not always, this leaves the PSU dead though. I've seen it, once in my entire life, on a computer where the PSU caught fire, which
served as an indicator that something was very wrong.
Have you checked if the PSU gives the right voltages, using a multimeter? Does its fan spin? You should check the PSU before connecting anything else
to it, to avoid frying any more component(s).
As for lost data, I've got about 10Gb worth that you can download from me.
Edit: Btw, broken hardware is indeed a pain. My surfing computer's motherboard was fried yesterday, and it took me 1 hour to identify the
problem, 1.5 hours to buy a new one (most of which spent on bus-riding), and 0.5 hours to replace the motherboard and reinstall all drivers. 3 hours,
just because that old motherboard decided to die on me.... sigh.
Edit2: BTW, don't store vital information on a single drive with no backup. Use backups, or (better), since you're willing to fork up
£465, spend those on 3 or 4 drives + 2 PCI IDE controllers and set up a software RAID5 array (setting up all 3 or 4 drives as masters on separate IDE
channels for performance). More drives can then, BTW, be added to extend the space in case it gets full.
In a RAID5 array, a single drive failure won't cause data loss, and the performance gain w.r.t. reads/writes will be huge. It's very easy to
do under Linux, and I'm pretty sure even win2k/winxp supports it. I'm perfectly willing to assist.
[Edited on 2004-6-9 by axehandle]
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I have only downloaded a few things - mostly very old chemistry books - but I'd be happy to upload again what I have.
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Don't swap platters, swap logic boards. In the remnant of a Samsung 2GB drive I have sitting next to me, the only electronic stuff not on the
board are the heads, spindle motor and voice coil, and a small ic with supporting passives sitting on the little thing that holds the heads, most
likely an amplifier. There's a good chance your power fault left these alive. More to the point, even after the enclosure is opened (a slightly
involved process itself) it takes at least 8 screws to unmount the 2 platters (4 per platter). Doing all this while retaining appropriate standards of
cleanliness may prove difficult. Finding a suitably identical (hardware and firmware) drive could be hard.
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PHILOU Zrealone
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Quantum:
NaOH is a good eletricity carrier...if ever it has joined the cables...they are more than likely in short cut and maybe fried.
Open the apparatus to see if it is clean inside and wash it with distillated water then dry it fast and completely before use (if cables look intact.
If electronic is inthere...it is more than likely roasted but just try the washing and be ready to unplug when reused...just in case.
PH Z (PHILOU Zrealone)
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axehandle
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And noone can spell "irony"..............
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PHILOU Zrealone
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I catch the spell and give it a try ...
Iridium
Ytrium
Ir on Y
   
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