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Here is a great work up of a fun method by smuv with some good pictures too. In your set up though, you wouldn't even need the nice drying tube since
you'll be bubbling onto an ice cold, ammonia solution in distilled water.
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=16061#...
Obviously look up the dangers of NH<sub>3</sub>(g), be careful, blah, blah, fume hood or outdoors, etc, etc.
Oh, and to help with the spelling police. Try and download Mozilla Firefox as your browser. It's got a build in spell check. Or you could always draft
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It worked great! I got 125 mls of 30% solution, just what I was looking for, it took 2 hrs though! If I need more ill try the sulfate method if I
need more--NH4Cl(s) + H2SO4(l) => (NH4)SO4(s) + HCl(g)? I have 95% sulfuric acid at my diposal. So only a small fraction of the HCl produced would
disolve into the water. Could be boiled off afterwords. Don't worry, I have a fume hood with a face volocity exceeding that of 30 m/min
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Quote: Originally posted by AirCowPeaCock  | | So only a small fraction of the HCl produced would disolve into the water. Could be boiled off afterwords. Don't worry, I have a fume hood with a
face volocity exceeding that of 30 m/min |
Or you could pipe it into a train of neutralizing baths in wash bottles and trap most all of it as (useful) HCl salts. Even fish-tank tubing and 20oz
soda bottles work for this in my experience (Though they do get milky white and brittle with time). If your seals are decent it works wonder.
Account for suckback! Still, do it in the fume hood, of course.
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| Quote: Originally posted by AirCowPeaCock | | I need more ill try the sulfate method if I need more--NH4Cl(s) + H2SO4(l) => (NH4)SO4(s) + HCl(g)? I have 95% sulfuric acid at my diposal. So
only a small fraction of the HCl produced would disolve into the water. Could be boiled off afterwords. Don't worry, I have a fume hood with a face
volocity exceeding that of 30 m/min |
If you have NH4Cl that will work fine. I use the sulfate only because
it is cheap and available. There is no need to convert one to the other. Perhaps you should spend some time reading a chemistry book.
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NH4Cl did work fine--next time ill remember to add an excess of sodium hydroxide to be sure to neutralize all the HCl. I've been through a few chem
texts, or at-least through the inorganic section, and a little into organics. No need to neutralize the HCl, I can just collect it in water--you can
never have enough muriatic(?) acid.
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