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[*] posted on 1-3-2024 at 19:57
pKa of an aldehydic hydrogen?


Do we have a good idea of what the pKa would be of an aldehydic hydrogen? I don't mean the hydrogens alpha to the carbonyl, but the hydrogen directly attached to the carbonyl, the one in CHO. For example, how strong of a base would we need to turn formaldehyde into CHO-? I was thinking by analogy with a vinylic hydrogen: we know ethylene to have a pKa of ~44 and formaldehyde is just ethylene with one side replaced by the more electronegative oxygen. So, presumably the more negative oxygen would stabilize the negative charge more and give us a pKa lower than 44.
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[*] posted on 2-3-2024 at 08:36


Look up "acyl anion"



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[*] posted on 2-3-2024 at 10:42


I think most bases are more likely to do a nucleophilic attack on the carbonyl.



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[*] posted on 2-3-2024 at 12:55


Quote: Originally posted by clearly_not_atara  
Look up "acyl anion"


This is just what I needed. Thanks!
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