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[*] posted on 20-1-2023 at 07:01
my rogue 40/35 ground glass joint


I thought I'd save money by buying a vacuum desiccator missing its collar (first mistake).
I sized the GG joint at 40/35, and bought the "proper" collar. Now, the M-F joints are not quite the same size; the collar only fits halfway down the joint!

Would it be worth looking for another collar that is infinitesimally bigger yet ostensibly also 40/35? It seems like 1.5mm is out of tolerance:P
Or is there another GG joint configuration I overlooked?

I have in mind to modify what I have using elbow grease, but I have heard the troubles of sanding GG joints by hand. The collar is probably too fragile to sand anyways.
Maybe heating the collar with a big torch and "re-mating" them would be better?

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[*] posted on 21-1-2023 at 00:00


I'd reckon your best bet will be get some #60 silicon carbide grit or similar, coarse but not too coarse. Add some water to the joint and dab some grit on there. With some light force and lot's of rotation the grit wears down fairly quickly and so does the glass. So grind a bit, then lift very slightly to allow the water tension to redistribute the grit and then rotate and grind once more. Keep doing this until the grit no longer feels like it's grinding. Wash out the residue between the joints and start again until the depth has come down to something you're happy with. Being a 1:10 taper only a small amount of diameter change equals 10 times that amount in change in length. The grinding wont take long to come down in length between the joints. The joints will no longer be interchangeable, they are now exclusively wed in tapered matrimony. But you have a joint that looks a bit better.

To be very honest, the difference in length is hardly worth the effort, it should seal perfectly fine. That said, small imperfections like this have made me waste hours of time getting something perfect so I know! The struggle is real.
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[*] posted on 21-1-2023 at 07:50


Is the dessicator a Pyrex brand one or another brand (or none?) If so, then the Pyrex collar should work. I have fixed a few, and they are pretty much interchangable. But if either part is not Pyrex brand, then you may have an issue. Your size is pretty common on eBay, but I am looking for a 55/38 sleeve, which is hard to find, apparently. Modifying the one you have may be very hard to do, but you may have no choice, if it doesn't match.
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[*] posted on 21-1-2023 at 19:10


You can go to most auto parts stores and get lapping compound. There is fine and course grit, and it is a greasy type compound.
I wouldn’t heat the collar and stick it on as you are most likely going to crack the collar when it cools
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[*] posted on 21-1-2023 at 20:05


Assuming that there is a hole in the side of the male joint it is necessary to grind one or both parts until the hole aligns with the hose connection of the female joint.
If there is no hole then a different female part will be required.




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[*] posted on 22-1-2023 at 12:49


Thank you all, these are great suggestions. I will keep you appraised of the results.
The glass pieces are both Pyrex, although the desiccator says "Corning Pyrex" while the collar says "Pyrex", so they might be separated in age by some decades.
My thoughts exactly, Dr. Bob; I don't really care to buy more Pyrex collars and have them fit the same. I'll at least break this one first, haha.

Sulaiman, each piece of glass has the proper hole in it; I realize I didn't include these on my drawing, but they're there, and correctly located. The hole in the male side is enormous so they WILL line up, if only the collar would slide down further.
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[*] posted on 23-1-2023 at 16:00


I pronounce thee lid and collar! It took some elbow grease, and real grease, but now that it's all cleaned up, I couldn't be happier with the results. Can hardly believe it only took an hour! Thanks for the great ideas everyone.

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[*] posted on 23-1-2023 at 16:30


That is amazing, I have never tried to lap a joint like that, figured it would take a longer time. Great that it worked.

Glad that someone has had good luck with fiuxing glass. I have been a one person wrecking crew on addition funnels lately, broke 2 in 2 weeks, while running a bunch of big LAH reductions. Fortunately now while adding the LAH, but after the reaction was done and I was trying to clean them.
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[*] posted on 23-1-2023 at 17:05


Cleaning is where the vast majority of my breakage comes from (90%+)!



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