thors.lab
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What’s banned in CA?
Hey,
I’m from California. I’m on a trip right now in Utah right now and will later pass through Nevada. I thought it would be nice to stock up on some
chemicals that are available here that are banned in California.
Off the top of my head I’ve thought of DCM and Toluene. Anything else I should get ahold of before it’s too late?
Thanks
[Edited on 10-8-2020 by thors.lab]
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Yttrium2
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naptha
xylene
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I feel ya.
I am close enough to wyoming I can drive an hour and hit up a hardware store.
Colorado has very strict VOC rules now.
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I'm not recommending breaking the laws but that's what else scaqmd or whatever it's called has banned, in addition to possibly others.
I'm not sure if small quantities of solvent are still available in CA for laboratory uses!?
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thors.lab
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Quote: Originally posted by Yttrium2  | I'm not recommending breaking the laws but that's what else scaqmd or whatever it's called has banned, in addition to possibly others.
I'm not sure if small quantities of solvent are still available in CA for laboratory uses!?
[Edited on 8/11/2020 by Yttrium2] |
As far as I know these compounds aren’t illegal they just can’t be sold or shipped to California
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DCM is impossible to find even outside of CA. If you're near a Home Depot you can probably get a gallon of xylenes for $20.
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| Quote: Originally posted by monolithic | | DCM is impossible to find even outside of CA. If you're near a Home Depot you can probably get a gallon of xylenes for $20. |
I thought DCM was in some paint strippers? Is this no longer the case??
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You might be able to find it in obscure specialty products but you won't find DCM in OTC paint strippers unless you find some really old stock, like
3-5+ years old. I have a thread with a bit more information on this: https://www.sciencemadness.org/whisper/viewthread.php?tid=15...
I ended up buying a liter of DCM from Consolidated Chemical. Carolina Biological will likely sell it to you as an individual.
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I bought a gallon of paint stripper last year or three ago, who really knows. But instead of distilling DCM from it, it's just sitting. I was
suggested to go down to Sierra chemical suppliers since I'm in north central Cali.
https://www.sierrachemicalcompany.com/
They have sparks Nevada and Sacramento California stores, and carry methylene chloride. I didn't NEED it for anything so I never called or shown up
yet here yet. Take a look, they been in business a while, will help formulate or special label stuff for you too.
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Another thing, I worked along side a couple carpenters about a year ago, one was normally an oil field drilling guy. He had lots of stuff by the 50#
bag back at his shop. They were a touch off put by my conversation at first.. Drywall guy talking chemistry, but if you show you have a head on your
shoulders, aren't wacked out on drugs, and have some cash... They have plenty of nice things available to them. NaOH, cheap as hell, they purchase by
the pallet already. I was glad to shake a hand and know I wasn't taken for a cook. They invited me to get in touch some time and I was just busy,
forgot. Youngest is just over 1 years old... Go figure.
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Everyone hates chemistry. the liberals hate chemistry because "omg scary chemicals with big long names" and the conservatives hate chemistry because
drugs, terrorism, etc. sad
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Cannot get denatured alcohol here.... yes, denatured alcohol. Something to do with reduction in VOC's and denatured alcohol was a low-hanging fruit.
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Don't forget about the MEK
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| Quote: Originally posted by OldNubbins | | Cannot get denatured alcohol here.... yes, denatured alcohol. Something to do with reduction in VOC's and denatured alcohol was a low-hanging fruit.
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Uhhh I saw denatured alcohol in SoCal no more than a year ago at Home Depot. I haven’t been seeing it lately but I assumed it was Covid (for hand
sanitizer). Did this change recently?
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Lack of denatured ethanol is definitely covid.
Isopropyl is also a shortage due to it being used for the denaturing agent in hand sanitizer.
My local grocery stores literally haven't gotten a shipment of isopropyl in months.
Some of the pharmacies have it occassionally.
I know when the shipment comes in so I can go down and grab it before it is raided.
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Not COVID-related, it was enacted in 2019 but stores were allowed to sell what stock was on hand. It is a series of regulations enacted by C.A.R.B.
the air-resources board. Basically, California did so well improving the air quality from the 70's-80's that they have run out of stuff to ban so they
are putting restrictions on consumer goods. Denatured alcohol is just the one of many consumer products like glass cleaners and mouthwash. It is
insane, just do a search on 'C.A.R.B. regulations'.
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From my reading, they got squeezed to make more progress and weren't guided as to which VOC's to axe, so they went with the ones that would have less
impact on industrial user's.
It's not fun reading all the mechanics and such that basically curse California and those from it, Eve if you do leave, because of the laws here. As
if we are all just insane and deserve to have industry dry up. Kinda an ugly side of people just blasting others because,.." your cancerous thinking
has no place in MY state.. stay the f___ out of xxxxxxxx state you filthy longhairs. "
https://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/shop-management-and-ow...
Just one of many discussions on how we are ruining the world as people knew it... But it's surely not fun for us Californian's either, good grief. Ya
can't get mad, it's internet people.
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Maybe in california it isn't covid related.
Here in colorado it definitely is.
We are even having trouble getting drinking alcohol because hand sanitizer is currently more profitable.
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