Sciencemadness Discussion Board
Not logged in [Login ]
Go To Bottom

Printable Version  
Author: Subject: Diesel Exhaust Fluid - Urea - catalyzed ammonia to N2?
RogueRose
International Hazard
*****




Posts: 1593
Registered: 16-6-2014
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 12-4-2019 at 13:38
Diesel Exhaust Fluid - Urea - catalyzed ammonia to N2?


I'm pretty confused as to what is happening in this DEF system and it seems the opposite of experiments we have done to convert ammonia to NO2..

The DEF/urea solution is injected at the exhaust manifold and it decomposes to Ammonia and isocyanic acid - the ICA then hydrolyzes to ammonia and CO2. Then the gases pass through the Catalytic converter, supposedly turning it into N2.

Now the experiments that some have done using Pl/Pd is converting NH3 to NO2. How can the same process do both?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_exhaust_fluid

[Edited on 4-12-2019 by RogueRose]

[Edited on 4-13-2019 by RogueRose]
View user's profile View All Posts By User
rockyit98
Hazard to Others
***




Posts: 283
Registered: 12-4-2019
Location: The Known Universe
Member Is Offline

Mood: no mood is a good mood

[*] posted on 12-4-2019 at 18:05


Diesel and Urea
Periodic Video
The Professor discusses some of the chemistry behind the recent controversy involving Volkswagen cars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkpoL-aQbdI
View user's profile View All Posts By User
wg48temp9
National Hazard
****




Posts: 784
Registered: 30-12-2018
Location: not so United Kingdom
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 12-4-2019 at 23:28


Quote: Originally posted by RogueRose  
I'm pretty confused as to what is happening in this DEF system and it seems the opposite of experiments we have done to convert ammonia to NO2..

The DEF/urea solution is injected at the exhaust manifold and it decomposes to Ammonia and isocyanic acid - the ICA then hydrolyzes to ammonia and CO2. Then the gases pass through the Catalytic converter, supposedly turning it into N2.

Now the experiments that some have done using Pl/Pd is converting NH3 to NO2. How can the same process do both?


Catalysts only change the rate of the reaction by reducing the energy barrier to the reaction they are therefore inherently reversible.

For example you can use sulphuric acid to catalyze the creation an ester and you can use sulphuric acid to hydrolyse an ester back into the original reactants.




I am wg48 but not on my usual pc hence the temp handle.
Thank goodness for Fleming and the fungi.
Old codger' lives matters, wear a mask and help save them.
Be aware of demagoguery, keep your frontal lobes fully engaged.
I don't know who invented mRNA vaccines but they should get a fancy medal and I hope they made a shed load of money from it.
View user's profile View All Posts By User

  Go To Top