hi, my recently constructed fume hood could use quite some improvement in the air flow.
you're welcome to make suggestions...right now, i'm limited to using 3 axial fans having a flow rate of about 400m³/h, which are aligned to work in
serial, this could be a weak point. maybe arranging the in parallel would make more sense?
please see the attached picture.
[Edited on 7-8-2007 by stoichiometric_steve]
[Edited on 7-8-2007 by stoichiometric_steve]
bio2 - 6-8-2007 at 12:41
Your drawing shows parallel fans not serial.
Equal fans in parallel produce multiples of flow at the same pressure as one fan.
Equal fans in series produce multiples of pressure at the
same flow as one.
So if you arrange the fans in parallel for more flow capacity
hopefully there is adequate pressure to overcome the static
pressure losses.
Minimizing pressure losses by increasing ductwork size and
turning vanes to reduce turbulence will increase flow.
If your fans are axial type then this could be your problem as centrifugal fans usually produce more pressure than axial.
[Edited on by bio2]volfrahm - 6-8-2007 at 13:33
This is something I'm looking into at the moment also.
Some things you might want to alter:
-Place fans in series (in same duct/flow path) at the top of the hood.
-Add back baffle (pretty much an extra wall about 2" from the back; creates airflow along the work surface and at a midpoint of the back wall—a more
efficient/less turbulent version of what the four fans are possibly doing right now)
-Front sash (safety glass, plexiglass, etc) for added safety and better face velocity
-Minor changes to face vertical and horizontal edges to minimize turbulence at the hood opening and minimize contaminant leakage into lab air
Definitely check out the file labfumehoods.djvu (3 excerpt chapters from hood design book).
Here's a side view of a standard hood with airflow arrows (the irregular shape in the upper right is the duct containing the fan):
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stoichiometric_steve - 6-8-2007 at 23:43
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Originally posted by bio2
Your drawing shows parallel fans not serial.
the box in which the fans are arranged in serial is not shown. on the side view, the rectangles on the very right are just the duct pieces to which
the tube work is connected.
this tubing goes to the remote box where the fans are installed.
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Originally posted by volfrahm
-Place fans in series (in same duct/flow path) at the top of the hood.
the THREE fans are placed in series in a box standing on the window sill right behind the hood which is connected to the tubework. the tubes connect
the 2 left and 2 right fans to the main tube. see attached picture.
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Originally posted by volfrahm
-Add back baffle
there is one, see edited picture above.
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volfrahm - 8-8-2007 at 14:56
haha, might want to include the real design next time you ask for comments
Baffle slots might be too wide—the bottom baffle, for instance, might better extent to about 2" from the floor. And I'm not sure how effective that
top baffle is, since the inlet is 180º to the direction the air will be flowing from the sash opening. Might just be better pointing in the same
direction as the bottom baffle.
That document I mentioned suggests a test with a pie plate of water, with dry ice chunks dropped in. Lets you see how effectively everything gets
sucked out,Magpie - 8-8-2007 at 19:05
Steve,
I have built a homemade hood, as reported elsewhere in this forum.
I took your estimated flow of 400 m3/hr and your dimensional data (120cm x 150cm) and calculated a face velocity. Maybe this isn't your true opening
dimensions but you didn't give any others to work with. The face velocity I calculated was 12 ft/min. IIRC the old standard was 60 ft/min and the
new is now 100 ft/min. Sorry for the antiquated units but you get the picture. This may be the easy explanation for why your flow does not seem
adequate. (My hood provides ~60 ft/min and works fine.)
It is hard to move enough air unless your fan(s) and exhaust duct have sufficient diameter. I have an 8" diameter (20cm) duct and I believe the
industry standard is 10" (25cm). Even if you don't have much duct length this diameter likely acts as a controlling orifice.
It seems that you are using 3 axial fans in series each about 10cm (?) in diameter. While placing 3 fans in series will indeed give you 3X pressure
drop, I'm guessing that their small diameter just won't provide sufficient flow.
The document submitted by volfrahm looks very good. I think it would be wise to have a baffle arrangement in line with the recommendations of this
document.stoichiometric_steve - 9-8-2007 at 08:24
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Originally posted by Magpie
Steve,
I have built a homemade hood, as reported elsewhere in this forum.
nice, i've seen it. have you got the blueprints for it?
i've only spent like 200 EUR on this hood, it's all made of coated wood though. when the sash is opened by 30cm the calculated face velocity would be
more like 50ft/min according to the value you gave.Magpie - 9-8-2007 at 10:25
Quote:
nice, i've seen it. have you got the blueprints for it?
Being old school I only have hand drawings. These are on several pages of ordinary size paper. I could likely photograph them and post, however.
They are for 1/16" aluminum construction but might provide a starting point for other materials.
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when the sash is opened by 30cm the calculated face velocity would be more like 50ft/min according to the value you gave.
50 ft/min is not too bad, assuming that this is a good working height for you. Try the pie plate/water/CO2 test and see what kind of flow pattern you
have. If you don't get a decent flow pattern then I would suspect that your baffling is not adequate.Phosphor-ing - 9-8-2007 at 11:37
Please post your drawings Magpie. I have plans to build a homemade hood in the not to distant future. I have a press so shaping aluminium should not
be a problem.pantone159 - 9-8-2007 at 12:10
Magpie, please do post your drawings if you can manage it. I am certainly interested, although I don't think I will actually make one in the near
future, but someday...Magpie - 9-8-2007 at 18:46
I took a photo of one of the 8 pages of pencil drawings that I made for my hood design. Unfortunately it is almost unreadable due to lack of contrast
and small printing.
I'll try again if I get an idea on how to make the photos readable. Sorry.
