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Fisher Accumet IC (transistor?) replacement?

PiledhigherandDeeper - 5-4-2018 at 18:34

I am looking to repair a Fisher Accumet AB15. It looks like a power surge zapped an IC on the board (see picture).

Does anyone have a line on where one can get a replacement?

If the IC can be obtained, any thoughts on if it is fixable?

Thanks!

ETA: I think it's a transistor, but since the serial is blown out... no idea.

Fisher IC.jpg - 1.1MB

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Reboot - 5-4-2018 at 18:47

It's potentially fixable if you can figure out what the part is. It looks like a voltage regulator. I would follow the lines on the circuit board. If it does look like a regulator and if you can look up those chips and see what their voltage input is supposed to be, that would tell you what voltage the regulator is supposed to be putting out (assuming that's what it is.) From there you go to Digikey or the like and run a search.



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Twospoons - 5-4-2018 at 18:49

Educated guess is its a 7805 regulator chip, based on the partial part number, and the connections I can see. They're common as dirt, and can be had from the likes of Mouser or Digikey. To confirm - is the middle leg connected to the negative of the DC input? And the lefthand leg connected to the positive?

There will be many option for this device - you want one in a TO220 style case.
Any of these should work.

The thing that bothers me is these devices are usually pretty robust - so there may be something else wrong that caused it to blow.

Also - use a nut and bolt for the new device. Rivets can put stress on the leadframe, especially used as in the photo. Could even be why it failed.


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DavidJR - 5-4-2018 at 18:52

Yes, 7805 seems very likely.

PiledhigherandDeeper - 5-4-2018 at 19:06

Awesome. Thanks for the replies all.

Long day so I'm spent on this project for now as far as more than a visual inspection goes...

Best I can tell is the middle pin connects to nothing. Left pin (as facing it in the picture) runs back to the DC power inlet on the underside. The right pin runs on the topside of the board to the rest of the electronic maze.

The DC connecter tip is negative, sleeve is positive. Input is 12 V, 500 mA.

(my electronics knowledge is severely lacking)

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Twospoons - 5-4-2018 at 20:56

Quote: Originally posted by PiledhigherandDeeper  

Best I can tell is the middle pin connects to nothing.
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Probably a 4 layer board then, and the middle leg is connected to an internal plane.

Desoldering will be fun. Cut the legs with good sharp side cutters first, then you can heat and remove the pins one at a time. Use some desoldering braid to clear the holes - sometimes this is made easier by completely filling the holes with solder first.
Bolt the new chip down first, then solder it in place - otherwise you may end up with stress on the solder joints, and poor contact with the heatsink. If you have a bit of heatsink paste use a little on the back of the chip - I can see a little on the edge of the old chip. Emphasis on little - a thin smear is plenty. Use decent electronics solder (Sn63/Pb37 eutectic or Sn97 lead free - not 60/40 or plumbers solder). I'd guess the existing solder is lead free (looks kinda dull and crystalline) so go with lead free for the repair. Use a temperature controlled iron intended for electronics.

Or get an electronics hobbyist to do it for you - its a 10 minute job.

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Fulmen - 5-4-2018 at 23:31

I think Twospoons has covered everything. It definitively looks like the LM7805:
http://bg-electronics.de/catalog/images/KA7805_Fairchild.jpg

PiledhigherandDeeper - 6-4-2018 at 03:15

Thank you again all for the info.

Another question... Mouser shows 5 and 30 V outputs. I'm math savvy enough to know that 12 is in between 5 and 30, but I'm not sure which I will want to go with in this case.

I can pick up one of the following locally:

http://www.microcenter.com/product/422320/NTE960_Integrated_...

http://www.microcenter.com/product/413896/3_Terminal_Adjusta...

Marked up $, but the trade off is speed of acquisition.

ETA: Please correct me if I'm wrong... 5V according to the _ _ 05 number?

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Twospoons - 6-4-2018 at 22:14

The NTE960 should work for you. Its pin compatible with the 7805. The other one wont - it needs a couple of other components to set the output voltage.

Yes you are right about the '05 meaning 5 V output. The 78XX series also come in 9V, 12V, and 15V flavours.

unionised - 7-4-2018 at 03:53

Remember that whatever it was that killed the voltage regulator may also have damaged the rest of the circuitry.
Don't be too shocked if the equipment still doesn't work after replacing the chip.