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Looking to buy nitroethane

drzdude - 7-3-2018 at 16:18

Looking for nitroethane for a synth of aminomethyl propanol, but amateur chemistry gods have to make my life hard living in the US. Anyone have some they have no use for? Thanks!

Vosoryx - 7-3-2018 at 16:37

http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=78203#...

It's in Canada, so might be expensive shipping to the states... especially being a restricted chemical.

Hope this helps.

drzdude - 7-3-2018 at 16:40

Hey I actually U2U’d him about a week ago, but thanks a lot for the help!
Quote: Originally posted by Vosoryx  
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=78203#...

It's in Canada, so might be expensive shipping to the states... especially being a restricted chemical.

Hope this helps.

Vosoryx - 7-3-2018 at 17:00

Then I don't know... Sorry. Depending on how much you need, it can be made. (But i'm almost sure it's cheaper to buy it somehow, the yields suck.)

https://erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/nitroethane.htm...

drzdude - 7-3-2018 at 17:58

Yeah the yields suck and none are even OTC, was hoping for a better solution.
Quote: Originally posted by Vosoryx  
Then I don't know... Sorry. Depending on how much you need, it can be made. (But i'm almost sure it's cheaper to buy it somehow, the yields suck.)

https://erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/nitroethane.htm...

monolithic - 10-3-2018 at 19:36

ACRIFIX 1S0117 or 1S0116 (Google it), if you can figure out a way of separating the nitroethane.

Reboot - 11-3-2018 at 05:46

Quote: Originally posted by monolithic  
ACRIFIX 1S0117 or 1S0116 (Google it), if you can figure out a way of separating the nitroethane.


Oooh! Nice find. You'll want the 117 stuff (pure solvent, the 116 is 'thickened', probably with dissolved acrylic.) Shouldn't be too hard to separate (fractional distillation, perhaps followed by a water wash should give a good enough product for most purposes.)

Magpie - 11-3-2018 at 09:52

Search Klotz Nitro.

monolithic - 11-3-2018 at 10:05

Quote: Originally posted by Magpie  
Search Klotz Nitro.

Isn't that nitropropane?

Magpie - 11-3-2018 at 12:16

Yes, I’m sorry.

Kiara Sky on eBay sells 15ml for $8.45 as a brush saver.

[Edited on 11-3-2018 by Magpie]

monolithic - 11-3-2018 at 17:35

Quote: Originally posted by Magpie  
Yes, I’m sorry.

Kiara Sky on eBay sells 15ml for $8.45 as a brush saver.

[Edited on 11-3-2018 by Magpie]


I've never sat down to price out one of the "reasonable" syntheses of nitroethane (sodium ethylsulfate procedure, I guess) but is it any cheaper/more expensive than $8.45/15ml?

Mesa - 12-3-2018 at 00:17

Quote: Originally posted by Reboot  
Quote: Originally posted by monolithic  
ACRIFIX 1S0117 or 1S0116 (Google it), if you can figure out a way of separating the nitroethane.


Oooh! Nice find. You'll want the 117 stuff (pure solvent, the 116 is 'thickened', probably with dissolved acrylic.) Shouldn't be too hard to separate (fractional distillation, perhaps followed by a water wash should give a good enough product for most purposes.)



Why fractional distillation? Nitroethane has more than 25*c difference in BP to the other compounds except n-butanol. It might be easier to do simple distillation and deal with the tiny butanol impurity if necessary.

No azeotropes to worry about either.

^^^ Referring to 0116 product.

[Edited on 12-3-2018 by Mesa]

nelsonB - 12-3-2018 at 15:19

be sure its the good one,
the quick set use nitromethane that has a lower boiling point so it set faster.

[Edited on 12-3-2018 by nelsonB]

drzdude - 13-3-2018 at 20:45

I say distill off the nitroethane / butanol azeotrope (bp of 117.8c) and add potassium acetate to lower the volatility of the alcohol? Other than that can’t find much literature on n-butanol forming an azeotrope with either benzene or methanol (both don’t form one with nitroethane) which could have been useful.
Quote: Originally posted by Mesa  
Quote: Originally posted by Reboot  
Quote: Originally posted by monolithic  
ACRIFIX 1S0117 or 1S0116 (Google it), if you can figure out a way of separating the nitroethane.


Oooh! Nice find. You'll want the 117 stuff (pure solvent, the 116 is 'thickened', probably with dissolved acrylic.) Shouldn't be too hard to separate (fractional distillation, perhaps followed by a water wash should give a good enough product for most purposes.)



Why fractional distillation? Nitroethane has more than 25*c difference in BP to the other compounds except n-butanol. It might be easier to do simple distillation and deal with the tiny butanol impurity if necessary.

No azeotropes to worry about either.

^^^ Referring to 0116 product.

[Edited on 12-3-2018 by Mesa]

XeonTheMGPony - 14-3-2018 at 03:31

https://www.acrylite-shop.com/US/us/details.htm?$product=ad3...

some thing I found when researching the stuff, handy as I do plexiglass work too! so need a good glue! 1gal for 170usd not bad at all

drzdude - 14-3-2018 at 09:14

Yeah that’s what we’re talking about above, thanks for the info though!
Quote: Originally posted by XeonTheMGPony  
https://www.acrylite-shop.com/US/us/details.htm?$product=ad3...

some thing I found when researching the stuff, handy as I do plexiglass work too! so need a good glue! 1gal for 170usd not bad at all

Melgar - 14-3-2018 at 10:32

Correct me if I'm wrong, but none of the other components of this stuff would seem to impede a nitroaldol reaction. Huh.

drzdude - 14-3-2018 at 11:32

I think you’re right, but all but n-butanol are easy to separate, and the alcohol definitely wouldn’t be an issue.
Quote: Originally posted by Melgar  
Correct me if I'm wrong, but none of the other components of this stuff would seem to impede a nitroaldol reaction. Huh.

nelsonB - 23-3-2018 at 17:13

Just saw the shipping price to canada of acrylite-shop.com,
International Ground (residential): 492.09 USD
this is ridiculous

[Edited on 24-3-2018 by nelsonB]

monolithic - 25-3-2018 at 05:03

Quote: Originally posted by nelsonB  
Just saw the shipping price to canada of acrylite-shop.com,
International Ground (residential): 492.09 USD
this is ridiculous

[Edited on 24-3-2018 by nelsonB]


Maybe try e-mailing them? They could probably work out something cheaper than $500. It's not like you live in Borneo -- there's no reason it should be that expensive.

drzdude - 25-3-2018 at 14:54

Sample bottle size shipping to Pennsylvania cost me 20$, it isn't cheap unfortunately. But yes 500$ is ridiculous!
Quote: Originally posted by monolithic  
Quote: Originally posted by nelsonB  
Just saw the shipping price to canada of acrylite-shop.com,
International Ground (residential): 492.09 USD
this is ridiculous

[Edited on 24-3-2018 by nelsonB]


Maybe try e-mailing them? They could probably work out something cheaper than $500. It's not like you live in Borneo -- there's no reason it should be that expensive.

Mush - 12-10-2018 at 10:33

Quote: Originally posted by monolithic  
Quote: Originally posted by Magpie  
Search Klotz Nitro.

Isn't that nitropropane?


https://static.summitracing.com/global/images/instructions/k...

"Contains 50% Nitropropane and 50% Koolinal as blending and cooling agents.Koolinal also resists detonation and preignition."

I couldn't find weather it is 1- or 2-nitropropane. Knowing that 2-nitropropane highly carcinogen it must be 1-NP. I don't think that 2-NP would be allowed in the US market such a high concentration.

Mush - 13-10-2018 at 10:37

Quote: Originally posted by Reboot  
Quote: Originally posted by monolithic  
ACRIFIX 1S0117 or 1S0116 (Google it), if you can figure out a way of separating the nitroethane.


Oooh! Nice find. You'll want the 117 stuff (pure solvent, the 116 is 'thickened', probably with dissolved acrylic.) Shouldn't be too hard to separate (fractional distillation, perhaps followed by a water wash should give a good enough product for most purposes.)




ACRIFIX 1S 0116 contains ethylformate, nitroethane, butan-1-ol.


ACRIFIX 1S 0117 contains other than just ethylformate and nitroethane

Komponente CAS-Nummer Gefahrensymbol(e) / R-Sätze Gehalt
Ethylformiat 109-94-4 F, Xn 11-20/22-36/37 30,0 - 60,0 %
Nitroethan 79-24-3 Xn 10-20/22 30,0 - 60,0 %
2-Phenoxyethanol 122-99-6 Xn 22-36 3,0 - 7,0 %
Ethylacetat 141-78-6F, Xi 11-36-66-67 3,0 - 7,0 %
Butan-1-ol 71-36-3 Xn 10-22-37/38-41-67 1,0 - 5,0 %

RS Pro 250ml could be a better choice for UK users.

dichloromethane 30-70%
nitroethane 20-50 %
1-methoxy-2-propanol 5-25 %




[Edited on 13-10-2018 by Mush]

ntthanhbin - 5-3-2019 at 03:39

I wonder which make acrifix 117 is an azeotrope. Refer to TDS, I found that acrifix 117 contains less than 1% solid. Does it has hydrogen bonding?

zed - 5-3-2019 at 15:25

Looking to buy? As far as I know, that's OK.

Problem is, most folks here, if they had some, would be legally prohibited from selling it to you.