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Amygdalin/Laetrile, where to find?

Rhodanide - 21-10-2016 at 09:48

Before you guys say anything, NO, I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE WHOLE VITAMIN B17 BOGUS! (The whole thing's pretty damn screwed up, if you ask me.)

With that out of the way, my main question! :)
I want to extract the cyanoglucosides amygdalin and laetrile from various plant seeds, just for kicks. Problem is, I don't know of which seeds contain it!
For reference, I live in the NE USA, so I'm only looking for plants in my region.
Do any of you guys know where I can find appropriate seeds or sources for it?
I already have crab apples, but I want to know if there's a more efficient source (EASILY AVAILABLE) anywhere around here. I also plan on extracting the gallotannins, gallic acid, and tannic acid from acorns. (Thanks, fall!)
Cheers, guys.
-Azide

aga - 21-10-2016 at 11:52

Apricots

Edit:

Automatically pluralised that because you'll need a lot of them.

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Maroboduus - 21-10-2016 at 14:11

I don't think apricots don't grow too well up there. Cold weather.
peaches, same problem.

Try plums. I think they're easier to find in your neck of the woods.

But SOMEBODY up there must use lots of peaches and apricots for something. Some jam maker or whatever. Might be worth looking into since they'd probably let you have more pits than you could ever stand to crack open for next to nothing.

That's another consideration: Apple seeds are easy to prepare for use. Plums, apricots and peaches need to be cracked open to get the pit out. Extra work if you need a lot of them.

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But then again 1 peach pit is as big as quite a few apple seeds.

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aga - 21-10-2016 at 14:53

Mexico makes quite a lot of $ from it.

"Google, When drunk, and Ye Shall Find sayeth the Lord"

(agaphesians 4:16)

zed - 28-10-2016 at 14:04

http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/apples.asp

Either you can grow Apricots and Peaches, or you can't.

Here in the Willamette Valley, it is the Summer Moisture, not the cold climate, that causes Apricots and Peaches, to have disease problems. Slightly further East, in more desert-like areas, Apricots do pretty well.

Apples, Cherries and Plums produce Amygdalin also.

Some claims about Cassava Roots. Probably won't grow in your area. But, they might sell 'em at yer local Asian market.

Well, I tried to provide a direct link.......but no soap.


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Maroboduus - 28-10-2016 at 15:34

Looked into apricot growing further and was surprised to find that they ARE grown in the NE. The early thaws can be a problem, but they are a commercial crop out there.

They are much hardier than I thought.

Didn't know they grew in the Willamette valley either. Thanks Zed.

zed - 30-10-2016 at 15:11

A variety called Puget Gold, survives pretty well in the Willamette Valley. Parts of Eastern Washington, even further North, are serious Apricot country.
http://www.thepacker.com/fruit-vegetable-news/crops-markets/...

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Rhodanide - 31-10-2016 at 07:00

Quote: Originally posted by zed  
A variety called Puget Gold, survives pretty well in the Willamette Valley. Parts of Eastern Washington, even further North, are serious Apricot country.
http://www.thepacker.com/fruit-vegetable-news/crops-markets/...

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I've heard of Puget gold before. Problem is, I'm in quite literally the farthest state away from there, so growing conditions are likely very different. As well as this, you may get lots more rain seeing as you're in the Pacific NW.

Rhodanide - 31-10-2016 at 07:04

Quote: Originally posted by Maroboduus  
Looked into apricot growing further and was surprised to find that they ARE grown in the NE. The early thaws can be a problem, but they are a commercial crop out there.

They are much hardier than I thought.

Didn't know they grew in the Willamette valley either. Thanks Zed.


Yeah, they seem quite fragile, and brittle when frozen. Maybe I was wrong.
Question is though, do they sell them at flower shops or anywhere else seeds can be found? If that's the case, then I don't even need to grow them (However, I probably might. It's nice to have fruit! :) ) if they sell them in bulk. But, they most likely won't.

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zed - 31-10-2016 at 15:23

Ummm. Lot of variation in growing zones in the East.

Nurserymen suggest Apricots may be grown in Zones 5-9.

Further, there is the matter of Micro-climates. In some cases, planting near the Sun warmed South side of a house will render the seemingly impossible....possible. In other cases, the ticket to success, is planting a tree, where it is shaded while the sun is low on the horizon, as on the North side of large house. This keeps conditions icy, so the tree doesn't blossom early in the year, when late frosts are most likely to wipe out potential fruit.

Here, you need the expertise offered in tree catalogs, and the knowledge of local gardeners and nurserymen, to help you.

Perhaps the Home Orchard Society can help you contact local experts.
http://www.homeorchardsociety.org/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apricot

http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/1437849/heirloom-apr...



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Rhodanide - 1-11-2016 at 05:18

Quote: Originally posted by zed  
Ummm. Lot of variation in growing zones in the East.

Nurserymen suggest Apricots may be grown in Zones 5-9.

Further, there is the matter of Micro-climates. In some cases, planting near the Sun warmed South side of a house will render the seemingly impossible....possible. In other cases, the ticket to success, is planting a tree, where it is shaded while the sun is low on the horizon, as on the North side of large house. This keeps conditions icy, so the tree doesn't blossom early in the year, when late frosts are most likely to wipe out potential fruit.

Here, you need the expertise offered in tree catalogs, and the knowledge of local gardeners and nurserymen, to help you.

Perhaps the Home Orchard Society can help you contact local experts.
http://www.homeorchardsociety.org/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apricot

http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/1437849/heirloom-apr...



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Thanks, zed!