I want to make acetone peroxide from h2s2o8 which gives h2o2 and disulphuric acid on hydrolysis. So is it possible to make acetone peroxide by pouring
acetone in the solution of h2o2 and h2s2o7.kecskesajt - 8-7-2015 at 09:02
Dont mix peroxides with mineral acids/dehydrating agent.Never!And why TATP aka the satans morthers sheeeeeet.But you will know it later.Makes huge
crystals even after recrystalisation.And a slight touch and it explodes.
Don't learn it in the hard way.Bot0nist - 8-7-2015 at 10:34
TCAP is often made using sulfuric acid, but the reaction must be kept very cold for the trimer to form, and the heat produced when adding conc.
sulfuric acid to the hydrogen peroxide solutions is a common problem. This can cause the hydrogen peroxide to decompose to a useless concentration, or
heat the reactants past the point where the desired oligomer can form.
I don't really see any reason some TCAP would not be produced in your proposed scheme though. Just keep everything very cold and very small scale.
Just a single drop of acetone will yield enough to satisfy your curiosity. Keep in mind that the compound you are attempting to make is a very
sensitive explosive that has been responsible for countless accidents and injuries, and is of very limited use other than making loud bangs and
maiming reckless youths and kewls.
I'm not familiar with anyone having used peroxydisulfuric acid for this, so why not do some very small scale tests (test tube sized and a drop of
acetone) and report your results back here?aga - 8-7-2015 at 14:25
You'll die if you do.BromicAcid - 8-7-2015 at 14:57
Without proper cooling and dillution I have the feeling this will explode. Peroxydisulfuric acid is a solid if I recall correctly, essentially the
anhydride of Piranha Solution which is known for detonating in contact with things like say... acetone.zed - 13-7-2015 at 18:44
Once again, an enquiry about a dangerous explosive. Some of the guys get pissed when dope questions are asked. I don't. Explosives alarm me.Corrosive Joeseph - 13-7-2015 at 18:48
Me too. Please stop spoonfeeding this guy. He is going to kill himself.................... zed - 19-7-2015 at 14:47
.......................Or, possibly others. Lots of others.szuko03 - 20-7-2015 at 09:11
Then you look at his "birthday" and notice hes 15...
Then you look at his "birthday" and notice hes 15...
Lel I am 14 years old and dont asking seriusly dumb questions.szuko03 - 20-7-2015 at 13:46
It was not meant to be an issue of age meaning stupid but rather "an inability to realize the effects of the now oo the distant future." If you lose
an arm now it does not grow back when your 40 and telling your son how you lost it. It does not grow back in time for your first date and your
criminal record will haunt you forever.
The issue with age isnt one of knowledge but rather one of wisdom. Knowing how relationships of all types, not just between people but events, effect
your future. Its great to be interested in chemistry but bad to lose an arm at 15 and not understand the repercussions of these actions. I fear for
their future not their minds.
[Edited on 20-7-2015 by szuko03]PHILOU Zrealone - 31-7-2015 at 06:30
From memory on the msds of Ammonium persulfate (peroxodisulfate) is not compatible with aceton...
I suspect it is from the transcient formation of CTAP.
At a hair product factory I was working in, we had a detonation of (NH4)2S2O8 with some waxy material in an automatic filler of the dry powder used as
hair bleaching once added to water by professionnal hairdressers/barbers... but this is another story.James Ikanov - 31-7-2015 at 10:44
To put it bluntly, I hope this is an entirely theoretical question....
Not even suicide bombers are willing to use TATP because it's prone to exploding before they can even reach where they want to blow themselves up.
I'm an idiot and I love exploding things I wouldn't touch 0.1 grams of an organic peroxide with a ten foot pole.
Never ever. kecskesajt - 31-7-2015 at 20:34
Yes never more.Scary shit.That moment when you find 1-1.5 cm crystals and you are like:WTF
You can do anything,only get a big bow of NaOH solution under it and with a huge stick,push it to the basic solution with praying to god,pls no
explode TATP.After it got it wet,you are good to go.kecskesajt - 9-8-2015 at 11:52
Look at this photograph: http://detonatorhun.hostzi.com/images/wwb_img15.jpg
WARNING,GRAPHICAL CONTENT,for education purposes only.
Guy was storing 4-5 gramms of TATP in a jar.He was screwing down and then suddenly.
