I dont know what gelling agents are suitable for hydrocarbonsBot0nist - 7-6-2015 at 23:33
Would any of the gelling agents used for making "napalms" from gasoline not be suitable for use with such a hydrocarbon? gatosgr - 8-6-2015 at 01:36
isnt that petroleum jelly?
from what I found out you can use aluminum stearate
[Edited on 8-6-2015 by gatosgr]Waffles SS - 8-6-2015 at 01:50
Thanks ,
I want to make transparent gel hydrocarbon
Does Aluminium Stearate or another Aluminium fatty acid make hydrocarbon transparent gel?gatosgr - 8-6-2015 at 01:53
I dont know but to make aluminum stearate you can react steric acid with NaOH to make sodium stearate and then react it with AlCl3Fulmen - 8-6-2015 at 04:33
Dissolving clear polystyrene (CD-covers for instance) in gasolin works well. A bit of xylene seems to improve gelling. smaerd - 8-6-2015 at 05:58
I'm not sure if this is helpful at all but the paint stripper that people distil dichloromethane from has a pretty wicked gel in it. gatosgr - 8-6-2015 at 06:33
The polystyrene polymer swells in gasolin doesnt it? Is this how most gels are formed?
Not sure what you mean by glue, but adding polystyrene to gasoline makes a blob of transparent gel that turns into a translucent, cloudy white film
when dried. It may be possible to use it as a glue, but I am not sure about its strength as an adhesive. agent_entropy - 9-6-2015 at 05:45
Oddly, I find that some slightly more polar solvents tend to make a more homogeneous solution when dissolving polystyrene. Tetrahydrofuran, or
nitrobenzene will produce a perfectly transparent homogeneous solution. Such solutions (viscous) can absolutely be used as adhesive, especially
between pieces of bulk (non-foamed) polystyrene, as it creates a very effective solvent weld.
On the other hand gasoline, or kerosene (and strangely, acetone) will produce a blob of swollen polystyrene sitting in the solvent.
IIRC toluene and xylene also produce a homogeneous, transparent solution but I don't have any handy to test it out.
Also, what exactly do you mean by "gel"? Do you simply mean a viscous solution? Or do you mean the classical definition of gel? (ie. A substantially
dilute (mostly solvent) cross-linked system which exhibits no flow in the steady state. Such cross-links need not be chemical in nature, as there are
any number of supramolecular or physically crosslinked gels.)
[Edited on 9-6-2015 by agent_entropy]Zombie - 10-6-2015 at 00:15
Just buy a can of polyester resin for 20 bucks. It will mix with wax.Waffles SS - 10-6-2015 at 01:08
I want to make gel candle.
It usually made of paraffin and polymer and i am looking for this type of polymer
[Edited on 10-6-2015 by Waffles SS]Zombie - 10-6-2015 at 02:24
Different color horse.
You should look it up then because there is NO WAX involved. It's a mineral oil base, and co-polymers blended in to stabilize the oil.
A polyester, and wax candle smells like dog turds anyway.Waffles SS - 10-6-2015 at 06:03
Right now i have a solid powder that make gel Paraffin from liquid Paraffin
I use it for gel candle
I want to know what is this?
thermoplastic powder cp9000?Ethylene Copolymer?..
[Edited on 10-6-2015 by Waffles SS]macckone - 10-6-2015 at 08:49
What is the product name?
Did you check the msds?Waffles SS - 10-6-2015 at 09:24
If i had known it name and MSDS then i wouldnt have created this topic
[Edited on 10-6-2015 by Waffles SS]Mesa - 10-6-2015 at 11:05
I'm not sure if this is helpful at all but the paint stripper that people distil dichloromethane from has a pretty wicked gel in it.
From wikipedia:
Thickeners are used for thixotropic formulas to help the mixture form gel that adheres to vertical surfaces and to reduce the evaporation of the
solvents, thus prolonging the time the solvent can penetrate the paint. Cellulose-based agents, e.g., hydroxypropyl cellulose, are commonly used for
mixtures that are not extremely acidic or basic; under such conditions cellulose undergoes hydrolysis and loses effectiveness, so fumed silica is used
for these instead. Another possibility is using waxes (usually paraffin wax or polyethylene or polypropylene derivatives), or polyacrylate gels.
