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Colored Alkali/Alkaline Earth Metal Salts?

DFliyerz - 26-4-2015 at 20:21

I know that most if not all of the salts of alkali and alkali earth metals are white or colorless, but are there any that have colors like transition metal salts, maybe even corresponding to their flame colors?

j_sum1 - 26-4-2015 at 20:39

The only one I am aware of is the lovely purple copper complex easily made as a precipitate of copper sulfate and sodium dichlorocyanuric acid. I hardly think that qualifies as a group 1 salt however. For what it's worth, I have made a small amount of an analogue using potassium in place of the sodium.

Molecular Manipulations - 26-4-2015 at 21:10

The group I and II ions are always colorless. Since most common anions are also colorless (eg. chloride, sulfate, nitrate), most of the common salts they form likewise have no color.
There's many transition metal polyatomic anions who's group I or II salts are colored. This color comes solely from the transition metal. Some examples of these are chromates, permanganates and cuprates. Nearly all transition metals can form these, so there's acually hundreds of colored compounds like this.

nezza - 27-4-2015 at 06:21

I thought that some of the trihalides of the higher atomic number elements such as CsCl3 are coloured yellow or orange.

Amos - 27-4-2015 at 06:36

If you count something like sodium dichromate, which is bright orange and gives a yellow-orange flame color characteristic of sodium, then yes, there are some. But let's be honest, the color isn't really dependent on the alkali metal at all.

DraconicAcid - 27-4-2015 at 06:44

The anion may be coloured, but the alkali metal has nothing to do with it. The colour depends on absorption of photons in the visible region, which requires either a partially filled d subshell (not present in alkali metal cations), conjugated pi bonds (not present in alkali metals), or the possibility of internal redox reactions (not present in most alkali metal compounds). The closest thing you can get to a coloured alkali metal compound without using a coloured anion would be the blue solutions of alkali metals in liquid ammonia, or sodium chloride that has been exposed to enough UV radiation to get rid of some of its chlorine, so that it has an excess of sodium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-Center ).

blogfast25 - 27-4-2015 at 08:23

Quote: Originally posted by nezza  
I thought that some of the trihalides of the higher atomic number elements such as CsCl3 are coloured yellow or orange.


Did you mean various unusual Cs oxides?

Texium - 27-4-2015 at 09:55

Quote: Originally posted by blogfast25  
Quote: Originally posted by nezza  
I thought that some of the trihalides of the higher atomic number elements such as CsCl3 are coloured yellow or orange.


Did you mean various unusual Cs oxides?
I believe woelen did some work with cesium trihalides, such as cesium tribromide, which is bright yellow-orange, although I can't find the page now. I did however find another one of his experiments making a yellow potassium polyhalide.

woelen - 27-4-2015 at 10:06

Alkali salts of colored anions are not interesting in this context. So, the copper salt, mentioned above, and the dichromates and polyhalides all can be dismissed as colored salts of the alkali metals. They simply are colored because of the anion.

There are, however, some salts, which are truly colored, because of the use of the cesium ion. I recently made one.

The ions SbCl6(3-) and SbCl6(-) are colorless. Alkali salts of these ions exist and these salts are white. However, when the rubidium or cesium salts are made of a mix of SbCl6(3-) and SbCl6(-), then a very dark blue/violet color is obtained. This is specific for cesium and rubidium. With potassium or lower alkali ions, the salt simply behaves like a white mix of SbCl6(3-) and SbCl6(-), but the larger Cs(+) and Rb(+) ions apparently cause the crystal lattice to become such that there is a special interaction between the cations, leading to strong colors.

Another interesting example of a colored cesium salt is Cs2O. Other oxides (not peroxides and superoxides) of alkali metals are white. I myself have Na2O and this is a totally white powder, which dissolves in water with production of a lot of heat. Cs2O, however, is yellow/orange. In this case, there is interaction between the metal ion and the oxide ion, which makes it appear orange. Solutions of Cs2O in water (which are solutions of CsOH after reaction), however, are colorless.

Other oxides of Cs are strongly colored as well. Cs3O, Cs4O and even lower oxides of Cs seem to exist, which have very strong colors. Cs2O2 is yellow, like Na2O2. CsO2 is yellow/orange, like KO2.