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Illegal to misuse store-bought chemicals?

Cou - 4-3-2015 at 14:00

Is it illegal to misuse store-bought chemicals, such as using pool tablet TCCA to make chlorine gas, or chemistry experimentation with muriatic acid? I live in texas

Zephyr - 4-3-2015 at 14:49

No. That would be like saying you can only use a glass for milk, not water.
However, I think chlorine gas production is looked at suspiciously.
As long as you do it on your own property and you don't violate any specific law, I think you'll be fine.

Brain&Force - 4-3-2015 at 15:05

Are you talking about :

"It is a violation of Federal law to use this product in a manner inconsistent with its labeling."

I have no idea if that's a scare tactic or something only intended for specific chemicals and specific uses for them.

chemrox - 4-3-2015 at 15:36

Quote: Originally posted by Brain&Force  
Are you talking about :

"It is a violation of Federal law to use this product in a manner inconsistent with its labeling."

I have no idea if that's a scare tactic or something only intended for specific chemicals and specific uses for them.


In the US that kind of statement is a lawyer trying to limit liability which his colleagues are trying to find. It may be illegal for example to use tech grade reagents for food or medicine manufacture. On the other hand combining I2 and NH4 to make an explosive may constitute local ordinance violations but is not withing the meaning of that label.

Zombie - 4-3-2015 at 19:24

Just google it!

https://www.google.com/search?q=production+of+chlorine+gas+t...

If you want opinion... blow shit up!

If you want legalities... Blow shit up.

If you live in Texas, and want to make Chlorine Gas ask a States attorney. If there IS a law regulating the "purposeful production of said gas, you will be covered.

If there is not... Blow shit up!

IMHO... everyone in the US is libel for prosecution. I think I was three or four when I gassed my house for the first time.

When you are a DAD??? You gas the house whenever you see too many boys.

macckone - 4-3-2015 at 20:19

Depending on the products original purpose it may be illegal, this specifically applies to herbicides, pesticides and fungicide.

Zombie - 4-3-2015 at 20:27

You're forgetting the "Patriot Act" brother.

As far as I recall it was some Texan POS that changed the world WE live in.

The laws do not apply to Him tho.

Loptr - 5-3-2015 at 09:37

I think in some cases this is true.

For instance as an example, cold medication, and more specifically stuff like l-methamphetamine used in inhalers. They must be used as described, otherwise, they are no longer excluded from the Controlled Substances Act where it lists specific formulations.

[Edited on 5-3-2015 by Loptr]

Darkstar - 8-3-2015 at 06:05

Quote: Originally posted by Zombie  
You're forgetting the "Patriot Act" brother.

As far as I recall it was some Texan POS that changed the world WE live in.

The laws do not apply to Him tho.


Hey, he was born in Connecticut. We don't claim him.

Metacelsus - 8-3-2015 at 06:53

With regards to
Quote:
it is a violation of Federal law to use this product in a manner inconsistent with its labeling
that phrase comes from a pesticide control law: http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/regulating/labels/labels_faq/l...

Zombie - 8-3-2015 at 08:09

Quote: Originally posted by Darkstar  
Quote: Originally posted by Zombie  
You're forgetting the "Patriot Act" brother.

As far as I recall it was some Texan POS that changed the world WE live in.

The laws do not apply to Him tho.


Hey, he was born in Connecticut. We don't claim him.



Nobody claimed him. He LOST that election.:mad:

We the Puppets of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, ...

Don't take off those mattress tags either... Whoa Nelly!

[Edited on 3-8-2015 by Zombie]

subsecret - 8-3-2015 at 18:38

If these laws are real, they're to prevent pesticide/algicide/fungicide pollution. More people will listen if the problem is made legal.

You're not pouring TCCA down the drain, so you're not causing such pollution.

macckone - 11-4-2015 at 23:06

Quote: Originally posted by subsecret  
If these laws are real, they're to prevent pesticide/algicide/fungicide pollution. More people will listen if the problem is made legal.

You're not pouring TCCA down the drain, so you're not causing such pollution.
The law in question applies to TCCA when it is intended for use as an algicide which is how it is usually sold. It is technically illegal to use it for anything else. On the flip side, I have never heard of anyone being prosecuted unless they actually caused pollution or hurt someone. The usual prosecution is related to misapplication of pesticide resulting in poisoning. That doesn't mean a local prosecutor won't make an example of a home chemist.