manzil_zaheer - 4-7-2006 at 10:06
Is there any difference between oxidation state and number?
What are oxidation state and number of peroxydisulphuric acid ?
12AX7 - 4-7-2006 at 13:04
Oxidation state (with associated number) == oxidation number.
manzil_zaheer - 5-7-2006 at 09:12
what is associated number? please specify
Kindly explain difference with example.
What is the oxidation number and state of H2S4O6
manzil_zaheer - 5-7-2006 at 09:24
H2S4O6 means:
O O
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H -- O -- S -- S -- S -- S -- O -- H
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O O
Please tell both oxidation number and state for each element please.
manzil_zaheer - 5-7-2006 at 09:30
Sorry
.................O O
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H -- O -- S -- S -- S -- S -- O -- H
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O O
manzil_zaheer - 5-7-2006 at 09:32
HOW DO I DRAW THE STRUCTURE?
THE OXYGENS ON TOP AND BOTTOM ARE BONDED TO SULPHER 1 AND 4
unionised - 5-7-2006 at 11:03
What are you trying to draw?
Peroxodisulphuric acid is H2S2O8
The structure contains an O-O bond but no S-S bonds.
woelen - 6-7-2006 at 11:56
Peroxydisulphiric acid (H2S2O8) has sulphur in the +6 oxidation state, hydrogen in the +1 oxidation state, the two O's between the two S-atoms are in
the -1 oxidation state and all other oxygens are in the -2 oxidation state.
The structure of this chem is H-O-S(=O2)-O-O-S(=O2)-O-H
With -S(=O2)- I mean an S, with an oxygen above and below, double bonded.
manzil_zaheer - 7-7-2006 at 09:56
What is the oxidation number?
Ok we can use also peroxydisulphuric acid, what is the oxidation state and number of oxygen
12AX7 - 7-7-2006 at 13:50
WTF?
He just told you!!!
manzil_zaheer - 14-7-2006 at 09:28
i mean is there any difference in the oxidation state and number?
Please explain with the example of peroxydisulphuric acid
woelen - 14-7-2006 at 09:54
Given the oxidation state S of an atom, you can find the oxidation number as follows:
Construct the function F(z) = S / ((z - S) * 2 * pi * i) in the complex plane.
Then the oxidation number ON can be written as
ON = ∫ﮯ F(z)dz, where ∫ﮯ stands for the closed path integral along the Jordan curve with winding number 1 around the pole S
of the function F(z).
There also is another way to compute ON.
ON = S