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Aconitic acid synthesis - Explanation of extraction method

Pasrules - 5-1-2015 at 22:11

Page: http://www.orgsyn.org/demo.aspx?prep=CV2P0012#Ref14N3

Now to any experienced organic chemists, the procedure calls for conc. HCl. As this is part of the extraction process wouldn't the H-Cl react with the double bond or is this why this part of the process is cooled in an ice bath.
Ref: http://www.chemguide.co.uk/organicprops/alkenes/hhal.html

What is the purpose/effect of, and what would be a safe molarity of HCl that would minimally/not react with the product?

What is the purpose/effect of the glacial acetic acid washes, in terms of the sulfates and "possible" chlorides present?


For anyone interested in my purpose for producing this chemical i have a post in the organic chemistry forums.
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=59860

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The following page describes the procedure for the synthesis of aconitic acid but i am having trouble defining my reactants due to grammatical issues.

My interpretation of the chemicals in the round bottom flask:
1M of citric acid
115ml of 18M sulfuric acid [Edit]
105ml of water
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[Edited on 6-1-2015 by Pasrules]

UC235 - 5-1-2015 at 22:32

Where on earth did you get the 2M sulfuric acid? Orgsyn calls for concentrated sulfuric acid.

Pasrules - 5-1-2015 at 22:37

"(115 cc., 2 moles) of concentrated sulfuric acid in 105 cc. of water"
or did it mean 115ml of 18M^

could you please write your interpretation in measured amounts please.




[Edited on 6-1-2015 by Pasrules]

DJF90 - 5-1-2015 at 23:02

Moles and molarity are two different things.

OrgSyn preps are some of the most clearly written procedures available to a chemist. Just follow what it says to the letter.

Pasrules - 5-1-2015 at 23:20

"(115 cc., 2 moles)" what does it mean by the 2 mole part, 2 mole of what?

Never mind that i completely missed a density calculation and now the numbers make sense.

[Edited on 6-1-2015 by Pasrules]