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Polverone - 3-12-2005 at 21:58

I think you'll notice new features in U2U and a few minor visual changes. The main reasons we upgraded, though, were to patch some longstanding security problems and to relieve the database load (this version is supposed to be much kinder to MySQL). Please let me know if you notice any problems and I'll attend to them.

[Edited on 12-4-2005 by Polverone]

BromicAcid - 3-12-2005 at 22:03

Wow, quick reply box, neat! Two other things I've noticed, the almost god-like power of the "Who's online' button has been comprimised and at the bottom of the main page XMB has included some kind of text banner that is at the moment for e-coupons, did I miss that before, overall though I like the new little icons and such, the U2U pannel is also neat, but it has things like "U2U Inbox" listed twice, one right above the other and "U2U Outbox" and all the other options, maybe the new U2U's appear between the two though, I guess I won't know till I get a U2U, still, really nice to see a forum upgrade, looks like our smilies got upgraded too, humm, don't know if I like them as much as the old ones....

Edit: You've got 9 stars now!?! So do we get a new rank setup at 1500 and 2000 now? ;) Oh, and I like the new information under the profiles.

Edit again: Actually it looks like those are stars specifically for your rank and the max I can attain is still 5. Oh well.

[Edited on 12/4/2005 by BromicAcid]

The_Davster - 3-12-2005 at 22:14

Interesting, the new layout both scares and intrigues me....

Hmm "ยป all users can reply." does this mean even non-members can post? I am also testing quick reply with this post. I think I liked the old smilies better :(. AARG the fonts are very slightly different now nooooo..... (kidding:P)

Forum definatly faster now.

Cool I can be invisible...

I like the U2U upgrades and the new info in the profiles.

Also the being able to edit posts to add an attachment will prevent against hundreds of double posts!

EDIT: The "whos online" page does not have links to the threads being viewed. And if one does not want a smilie in the header of their post there is a little star thing there instead, I don't know if that is intentional or not.

EDIT2: Kinda dissapointed that I am most active in whimsy..
EDIT3: We broke 3000 members recently!:cool:

[Edited on 4-12-2005 by rogue chemist]

BromicAcid - 3-12-2005 at 22:20

Nope, looks like you have to be a member to post, also, when I re-logged in it gave me the option to be invisible, I now show up on the "Who's Online" again, I wonder if the search function works and better?

Edit: Nope, search doesn't work any better, a search for 'hydrazine nickel' not in quotes only gave one hit in the exotic primaries thread despite there being at least one post that I can think of in the nickel thread where I mentioned both hydrazine and nickel in the same post. Also the search button for google is gone but honestly I didn't use that much, it never gave me information on what thread it was brining up and often brought me to the replies page with the text for a quote already inserted.

[Edited on 12/4/2005 by BromicAcid]

Polverone - 3-12-2005 at 22:38

I've copied the old smilies over. Does it look okay now? My browser had the old ones cached so I hadn't noticed the image change. I will try to find out about the Who's Online changes. When I click on it, I get the old setup with all clickable stuff, but I tried logging in as a regular user and there were no hyperlinks there.

Oh yes, the upgrade did alter the search page, didn't it. I will try adding that back in too.

EDIT: U2U Previews currently do not work! They will screw up your messages if you attempt to use them! Also, "Reply and delete" in the new U2U message panel does not work either.

Post preview shows all quotation marks (both ' and ") with slashes in front of them when you preview an edited message.

I can't believe they released this as a "final" version with these bugs unfound. We'll probably have to upgrade in the near future to fix it, but it shouldn't be something users will notice.

[Edited on 12-4-2005 by Polverone]

Rosco Bodine - 3-12-2005 at 23:14

Quote:
Originally posted by Polverone
I think you'll notice new features in U2U and a few minor visual changes. The main reasons we upgraded, though, were to patch some longstanding security problems and to relieve the database load (this version is supposed to be much kinder to MySQL). Please let me know if you notice any problems and I'll attend to them.


There is another glitche I see immediately .

For the " not logged in user " which is what I generally am
because of using proxies , the " reply " button has disappeared , but the " quote " button still works . So
I can just cut the quoted message and then use the empty box as it would have appeared before the change .

The way I have been posting replies or new topics is to use the authentication boxes above the message window to
provide a user name and password for the message post ,
without ever actually logging in . I suppose that some of the
new changes aren't readable through the filtering introduced
by the proxy , or are hidden to users not logged in .

The old " quoting " style without the truncated rectangle
box window for the quoted message was a lot better than
this new " quote box " .

[Edited on 4-12-2005 by Rosco Bodine]

BromicAcid - 3-12-2005 at 23:27

curl Ahhhh! It works now! :o

http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=3819

I like the new quote box, but I have to take a look at how quotes of quotes of quotes look.

Oh! And whimsy posts are once again appearing under the "Todays Posts" heading, it did that when I originally signed up, and I liked it so I didn't have to look into the forum itself separately, will it stay this way this time again?

[Edited on 12/4/2005 by BromicAcid]

sparkgap - 3-12-2005 at 23:38

Nice. :) Maybe we can get a rolleyes smiley now?

I don't know... Whimsy topics show up in Today's Posts even if I'm not logged in... I'm not sure if that's good... is it possible to set the forum software such that Whimsy topics will only show up in Today's Posts if you're logged in?

Anyway, it'll take some time for me to get used to the new UI, but I'll manage. :D

I also like the new quote box!

Neat; "Members who have visited today" no longer sorts in reverse alphabetical order, instead being sorted on the basis of who has most recently been active. :) The page showing only that is the one that sorts the names.

Might as well test a few more functionalities...

(let me borrow this for a moment, Org. ;) Merci!)




  1. this
  2. tests
  3. the
  4. list
  5. functionality



  1. this
  2. also
  3. tests
  4. the
  5. list
  6. functionality


Code:
s=0 for(i,1,10) s=s+1 end :)


Odd, why'd it become double spaced? :o

Bromic's suggestion:

Quote:

I'm quoting this:
Quote:

where this is the text being quoted...


Quote:

and I'm quoting another line of text... :)


and this tests "deeply nested quotes":

Quote:

testing
Quote:

this:
Quote:

I'm a deeply nested quote!!!!






Looking at the User's Control Panel, it amazes me that I can now set it up such that I can look at, like, 100 posts per page. :o It used to be limited to only 50. Oh, and I suppose the icons for the U2U functionality are missing... hmpf. But the U2U works though... can't complain! (edit: fixed, thanks Polverone!!!)

Hey, if you look at your own posts, there are now previews included! :) And in one click of a particular link in the "Member List", one can easily tell who the mods and admins are.

sparky (^_^)

P.S. Hey Bromic, I think it's justified; we're just trying to see if this ship we're riding has any leaks... :D ;)

P.P.S. If there are any more bugs in this release, I'm wagering that some other word might now trigger the reaction that curl once did. Hmm...

[Edited on 4-12-2005 by sparkgap]

BromicAcid - 4-12-2005 at 00:00

Even more things, I think it's marking a post as unread once someone edits it, a kind of neat feature, I wonder if it is just for the most recent post being edited or for any post in the thread, I don't think it's moving it to the top of new posts, just changing the color of the icon to show you haven't read it yet.

Also, the search function is significantly better in my opinion, more like googles now, it gives not only the thread title, but somewhere around a paragraph of text from it showing words bold faced that you searched for, it doesn't work any better in finding the topics you search for but it helps you find the results you are looking for in the ones it does return.

[Edit] Sorry for so many posts, it's like a new toy! :D

Another Edit; It appears as though it is now fixed so that the topics of the "Secret Lab" are compltely hidden from the masses, now begins a new dark age of conspiracy and paranoia :P

Good point Sparkgap, kind of reminds me of getting something new at a great price then finding little flaws in it, but still being happy with the overall price.

[Edited on 12/4/2005 by BromicAcid]

Polverone - 4-12-2005 at 01:18

Rosco, I have asked the XMB users forum how I can fix the board so that guests still get the post reply and post new topic buttons.

Sparkgap, what U2U icons? The icon at the bottom of each user's post to send a U2U is still there. Were there ever any others?

I'll ask about the smilies in code tags.

sparkgap - 4-12-2005 at 01:31

If you take a look at the U2U panel, you'll note that there are supposed to be images there on the top representing buttons. They aren't there. You didn't install them, I suppose, Polverone?

sparky (~_~)

Polverone - 4-12-2005 at 01:47

Oh, that's why the U2U panel looked funny. Images fixed there.

I just tested on another very popular bulletin board (vbulletin) and it looks like it doesn't disable smilies inside code tags either. I suppose that's just the standard behavior. If you want to write a message without smilies you'll just have to check the "disable smilies" box. I know, it's too bad there is no way to disable them for just part of a message, but I don't think it will be a problem that often.

sparkgap - 4-12-2005 at 04:31

Most of the other forums I frequent use Invision, so I thought all other forum software implemented "no smilies in between code tags". Oh well.

sparky (~_~)

neutrino - 4-12-2005 at 07:20

Quick reply. Nice. I suppose automatic spell checking would be a little too much to ask? :P

Personally, I think that this new style has too many unnecessary lines. Quotes and such are too boxed in, as opposed to the old style of two horizontal lines. Also, why is there a line between a person's stars and post #? This also seems unnecessary.

Well, those are my first impressions, anyway.

edit: There's something more satisfying about making a post in the quick reply and seeing it part of the thread right after submitting. Better than having to go to that other screen for a while while you typed.

[Edited on 4-12-2005 by neutrino]

12AX7 - 4-12-2005 at 10:47

Woooot :D It looks brand-spankily-dankily-new :D

...But does CTRL+S work?

GARRR!!!!11

Nerro - 4-12-2005 at 11:06

Quote:
Originally posted by Nerro
This is a quick reply :D
Yep that was pretty quick indeed :D

;):P:o:mad::D:cool::):(

bizzle itizzle undizzle

centered


urrel!

snailmail

[img]c'est une image![/img]

Code:
koot!




what colour do you like best?

[Edited on SunSun/DecDec/2005200520052005 by Nerro] When id the dating system getting fixed?!

[Edited on SunSun/DecDec/2005200520052005 by Nerro]

ump 2 maal.jpg - 200kB

chemoleo - 4-12-2005 at 11:43

I notice there are also a number of new themes availiable.... I like the 'corporate' and 'onepoint.9' options... minus the banner... which is a bit large in the first case.

Also, the new U2U box is FANTASTIC!!!

You can now move U2Us into subfolders (which can be created), including those in the outbox, to keep it manageable!! This keeps it nicely seperate, and not such a huge message mess!

I preferred Whimsy being private, and not viewable by the general public.... would it be at all possible for them to turn up in today's posts only for registered/logged in members?

[Edited on 4-12-2005 by chemoleo]

The_Davster - 4-12-2005 at 12:32

The new themes are interesting, but I still like the Sciencemadness theme best.

If one goes to member list, cicks 'status', then clicks 'decending' you can see everyone who has been banned, 23 people.

EDIT: I am realy liking the way a thread changes to unread only after you have read it.

And thanks Polverone for the smilie change back:cool:

[Edited on 4-12-2005 by rogue chemist]

Pommie - 4-12-2005 at 22:12

The # button - insert code formated text - comes up with the wrong message (enter text you want quoted) even though it inserts code.

Just playing now.
Red Text

Big text

Are all the fonts readable?
Andale Mono
Book Antiqua
Century Gothic
Comic Sans MS
Georgia
Impact
Tahoma
Trebuchet MS
Script MT Bold
Stencil
Lucida Console


Mike.

neutrino - 5-12-2005 at 03:25

Excuse my ignorance, but just where are these themes? I can't find them on the control panel.

Nerro - 5-12-2005 at 04:42

in profile set your date stamping to D/M/Y to get a correct date reading again :)

neutrino - 5-12-2005 at 14:25

Oh, rogue chemist was talking about those themes. Nevermind.

zoomer - 5-12-2005 at 16:18

I really like the changes, thanks Polverone!

I have noticed one small bug - the first icon in the "Icon" section has the "broken picture" icon picture, and a "open_bracket-star-close_bracket" text symbol next to it.

I'm using the default (SM) theme on MS Explorer, does anyone else see this?

(I tried to get a pic to show up, but couldn't, you'll have to use my poor word description...) :(

Z

12AX7 - 5-12-2005 at 16:27

Ditto.

Here's something to go with your description. ;)

- SMDB theme here, which is more or less default, right?

Tim

[Edited on 12-6-2005 by 12AX7]

Ecks.gif - 2kB

Darkblade48 - 5-12-2005 at 18:24

Interesting, I'm using Firefox, and I don't see that red X for the picture, but I do see the asterisk in the square brackets.

Edit: Interestingly enough, when I tried to type in [ * ], it made a bullet, but it wasn't in the text field, it was on the left hand side near my user name/posts etc.

Edit: This will show the weird effect
  • (look to the left of the text, I see a bullet point)



    [Edited on 6/12/05 by Darkblade48]

    Polverone - 5-12-2005 at 21:14

    I am using Mozilla and did not see that broken image either. I have copied over the appropriate file; it seems to be a 1x1 transparent gif.

    [*]

    Nerro - 5-12-2005 at 23:39

  • How
  • Fucking
  • Cool
  • Is
  • This
  • !
  • ?
  • :D

    [Edited on Tue/Dec/2005 by Nerro]

    Darkblade48 - 6-12-2005 at 04:08

    Way to (ab)use the little trick I found :D

    I would imagine the bullets are supposed to go to the right of the vertical line? Or maybe that's just how the bullets are?

    The_Davster - 6-12-2005 at 15:10

    Heh the bullet thing is neat


  • Also, with the new U2U sysytem, you cannot send U2Us without a subject for some reason, you get an error.

    Darkblade48 - 6-12-2005 at 19:53

    Quote:
    Originally posted by rogue chemist
    Also, with the new U2U sysytem, you cannot send U2Us without a subject for some reason, you get an error.

    Similar to this, I couldn't delete a post without specifying a subject first as well.

    DrP - 9-12-2005 at 04:00

    I agree with Chemoleo on this one - Seperate serious discussion from general chat. Also makes it private.

    QUOTE CHEMOLEO:
    I preferred Whimsy being private, and not viewable by the general public.... would it be at all possible for them to turn up in today's posts only for registered/logged in members?

    [Edited on 9-12-2005 by DrP]

    neutrino - 10-12-2005 at 06:10

    My U2U is telling me I have 34 messages when I only have 17. Does this count sent as well as recieved or is this just a bug?

    Attachment download?

    akinmad - 10-12-2005 at 08:43

    I don't know if this is specific to my computer's configuration (XP Pro + IE).

    In the former (prior to upgrade) setup, when I click on a PDF attachment it was popping up a new browser window and showing the PDF attachment in it.

    After upgrade, when I click PDF attachment it again pops up a new window but this time it tries to download the PDF attachment into my computer, but every time it fails.
    If I use "save as" command then again it fails to download. Does anybody else experience this problem? Regards

    Magpie - 10-12-2005 at 10:57

    Yesterday I tried to print a pdf that apparently downloaded OK. But it wouldn't print. I got a message saying that the file was "not properly coded." The pdf was from S. C. Wack's link to "Electric Arc Furnace Using 110-Volt Circuit."

    Polverone - 10-12-2005 at 15:32

    The total U2U count does include your outbox as well as inbox. Magpie, I just tried that PDF you had trouble with, and it still opens in a separate window and loads Acrobat for me. I'm using Mozilla and Acrobat 5 under Linux. Please post some more details so I can hunt down the source of this trouble.

    12AX7 - 10-12-2005 at 15:41

    Hey, I just realized, we lost the Google Search function :o

    Tim

    Magpie - 10-12-2005 at 16:03

    Polverone I have corrected the printing problem and am now printing the pdf. I don't want to tell you what was wrong as it is too embarassing.

    Phel - 10-12-2005 at 17:29

    I use the AdventureMedia theme, and the menu has some bugs. It looks like this:
    |Search the forums Search Frequently Asked Questions FAQ View member list Member List Today's Posts Today's Posts Forum Stats Stats |
    Is it possible to fix this? It's the only theme my eyes can stand to look at :cool:

    Nerro - 11-12-2005 at 04:56

    Quote:
    Originally posted by 12AX7
    Hey, I just realized, we lost the Google Search function :o

    Tim
    Thank god for that! it sucked balls!

    The_Davster - 20-12-2005 at 18:09

    I can edit my posts from several months ago now.:o Might want to get that changed back to the 24 or 48h limit it was before.

    DrP - 22-12-2005 at 02:50

    I can't seem to use the quotes button or the smilies today.

    ??