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Calculating pH

collisoo - 3-11-2005 at 05:53

Given that the pKa of acetic acid is 4.7, what are the pH values of the three buffers? Satisfy yourself from your answer that these solutions have increasing power of elution from DEAE-cellulose.

Buffer I; 20mM sodium acetate + 5mM acetic acid => 5E-3 M acetic acid

Buffer II; 40mM sodium acetate + 40mM acetic acid => 40E-3 M acetic acid

Buffer III; 100mM sodium acetate + 100mM acetic acid => 100E-3 M acetic acid

Ka of acetic acid => pKa = -log[Ka] = > 1.995E-5

x = √( (Ka)(no.of moles)

pH = -log[x]

Buffer I; x = 3.158322339E-4, pH = 3.50

Buffer II; x = 8.933084574E-4, pH = 3.05

Buffer III; x = 1.412444689E-3, pH = 2.85



I don't think this is right, but I can't see where I'm going wrong. Help, please, anyone?

unionised - 3-11-2005 at 13:34

This might help.
http://www.sparknotes.com/chemistry/acidsbases/buffers/secti...

Well duh

collisoo - 4-11-2005 at 03:38

Buffer I; pH = 4.7 + log([20E-3]/[5E-3]) = 5.3

Buffer II; pH = 4.7 + log ([40E-3]/[40E-3]) = 4.7

Buffer III; pH = 4.7 + log ([100E-3]/[100E-3]) = 4.7

Thanks for that. I knew I should have stuck with the Henderson-Hasselbalch equation

Magpie - 4-12-2016 at 21:47

A weak organic acid has a pKa of 4.2. It's dissociation in water can be represented as:

HA = A- + H+

The Henderson-Hasselbalch equation is as follows:

pH = pKa + log{[A-]/[HA]}

To get ~100% of the acid into the non-ionized form the pH must be ≤ 2.2, ie

pH = 4.2 + log (1/100) = 4.2 - 2 = 2.2

This acid is in solution at pH = 4.

Is it correct to say that the pH of this solution must be brought down to ≤ 2.2 to get near total precipitation?