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Looking for Phenol

Mailinmypocket - 17-3-2013 at 11:05

My eBay source for phenol has went dry :( does anyone here in Canada have a source for phenol to refer me to? The chemical suppliers that deal with individuals don't carry it sadly. If anyone has the ability to purchase it and is willing to forward it to me that could also be an option, for a surcharge for the trouble of course!

Thanks!

plante1999 - 17-3-2013 at 11:17

Well, if you like to make your own reagents, go buy a large bottle of aspirin (or buy sodium salicylate on ebay(cheaper)). And dry distill with sodium hydroxide in a stochiometrical excess, you should get crude phenol, you can then purify by standard mean. Decarboxylation of salicylate is known, I don't have a reference for it taught.

Hope it helped you somewhat.

Mailinmypocket - 17-3-2013 at 11:32

Quote: Originally posted by plante1999  
Well, if you like to make your own reagents, go buy a large bottle of aspirin (or buy sodium salicylate on ebay(cheaper)). And dry distill with sodium hydroxide in a stochiometrical excess, you should get crude phenol, you can then purify by standard mean. Decarboxylation of salicylate is known, I don't have a reference for it taught.

Hope it helped you somewhat.


Thanks! I do know of that route to phenol, and I do enjoy making my own reagents, but for phenol I just prefer buy it. I need about 250g or so for a few runs making salicylaldehyde which will take enough time in itself. Making that much from salicylates would be a pain, and phenol is pretty cheap too.

Vargouille - 17-3-2013 at 12:07

If you have a source of chlorobenzene, you could react that with sodium hydroxide to get your phenol. A procedure shouldn't be too hard to find.

Mailinmypocket - 17-3-2013 at 13:11

Quote: Originally posted by Vargouille  
If you have a source of chlorobenzene, you could react that with sodium hydroxide to get your phenol. A procedure shouldn't be too hard to find.


No chlorobenzene either, damn! Just found one eBay person that sells it 15$/15g, that's stupid, as if anyone would buy phenol at that price.

AndersHoveland - 17-3-2013 at 15:22

Quote: Originally posted by Mailinmypocket  
Looking for Phenol

Looking for "fenol", you say?

Why, it's growing everywhere !

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/8069_349283741816... ;)


[Edited on 17-3-2013 by AndersHoveland]

DraconicAcid - 17-3-2013 at 16:39

Quote: Originally posted by AndersHoveland  
Quote: Originally posted by Mailinmypocket  
Looking for Phenol

Looking for "fenol", you say?

Why, it's growing everywhere !

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/8069_349283741816... ;)


[Edited on 17-3-2013 by AndersHoveland]

Isn't that fennel? You should never confuse phenol with phenyl.

Steve_hi - 18-3-2013 at 04:50

https://www.elementalscientific.net/store/scripts/prodList.a...

I just ordered some from elemental but I live near the border and pick it up down there it took those guys 3 weeks to ship it

I have 4oz comming.
They will ship into Canada but you have to phone and make arraingments. also I had to pay an additional 17.00 hazard shipping charge on top of the dhipping charge

Qty Item Description Sub Total
1 CH6321-16 POTASSIUM CHLORIDE USP CRYSTALS, 16 oz. - $6.95
$6.95
1 CH1217-16 ALCONOX DETERGENT, 16 oz. - $8.00
$8.00
1 CH1031-16 ACETIC ACID GLACIAL, 16 oz. - $8.90
$8.90
1 CH2115-16 BOILING STONES, 16 oz. - $11.70
$11.70
2 CH5330-1 MERCURY METAL DISTILLED, 1 oz. - $7.50
$15.00
1 CH6066-16 PHOSPHORIC ACID REAGENT ACS 85%, 16 oz. - $9.25
$9.25
1 CH6430-16 POTASSIUM HYDROXIDE FLAKES, 16 oz. - $10.00
$10.00
1 CHV1139-4 METHYL-TERT BUTYL ETHER ACS, 4 oz. - $9.90
$9.90
1 CH4631-16 LACTIC ACID 85% PURIFIED, 16 oz. - $13.30
$13.30
1 CH3992-16 FORMIC ACID, 90% 16 oz. - $20.50
$20.50
1 CH2050-4 BENZOIC ACID CRYSTALS USP, 4 oz. - $6.99
$6.99
1 CH6112-4 PHTHALIC ACID ANHYDRIDE, 4 oz. - $9.65
$9.65
1 CH8309 TITANIUM METAL - $5.00
$5.00
1 CH6014-4 PHENOL CRYSTALS ACS, 4 oz. - $21.00
$21.00
Sub Total: $156.14
Shipping: $20.76
Tax: $0.00
*Adjustment: $17.00
Sub Total: $193.90
Total: $193.90



[Edited on 18-3-2013 by Steve_hi]

[Edited on 18-3-2013 by Steve_hi]

Mailinmypocket - 18-3-2013 at 04:57

Oddly enough I have already contacted them and they told me that the hazardous materials I ordered (phenol being one of them) cannot be shipped to Canada even for an extra fee. This was by email though and I never spoke to them on the phone, maybe I should try again...