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Calcium Sulfate not Precipitating?

Hexavalent - 19-4-2012 at 07:54

I recently required some high-purity calcium sulfate and knew that my plaster o' Paris wasn't going to cut it, so, in my attempt to make some purer stuff I dissolved a heaped teaspoon worth of calcium chloride, that I got from those absorbent crystal packs, in about 150ml room-temperature distilled water. I then did the same using sodium sulfate, but used about 75ml of water instead. I dumped the sulfate solution into the chloride solution, expecting precipitation of calcium sulfate and sodium chloride remaining in solution. However, nothing happened. I did not use properly weighed out stoichiometric equivalents, I just wanted a few hundred miligrams of high purity CaSO4 there and then.

CaCl2 + Na2SO4 ---> 2NaCl + CaSO4 was what I expected, or specifically;

[Ca2+] (aq) + 2[Cl-](aq) + 2[Na+](aq) + [SO42-](aq) ---> CaSO4 (s) + 2[Na+](aq) + 2[Cl-](aq)

I left it for an hour and still nothing, not even the water going slightly turbid. I repeated the experiment, checked thrice that I was actually using the correct reagents and nothing happened again.

What happened here?

DrNoiZeZ - 19-4-2012 at 08:22

The CaSO4 is insolluble in water so even if you use non stoichiometric reagents the precipitation must occurs and at once. If dont or it wasnt CaCl2 or wasnt Na2SO4, there is no other explanation that I can figure out. Maybe the absorbent was not CaCl2. Hope to help.

Hexavalent - 19-4-2012 at 10:41

Possibly, thanks.

http://www.kontrolukltd.com/products/products.php?section=1&...

It is the top product on this page that I purchased, and the bottom rear of the bag looks like this the first attachment.

The second attachment shows how, to conserve shelf space, I transferred the product to a tape and teflon-tape sealed glass bottle.

The third and fourth images show what the product itself looks like, it comes in the form of small, perhaps 5mm^2 in size, flakes.


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The sodium sulfate I used came from a 3-year old chemistry set, and the small vial had been opened about 3 months previously, and was the decahydrate form.

[Edited on 19-4-2012 by Hexavalent]

barley81 - 19-4-2012 at 11:08

Are you sure that the sodium sulfate is really sodium sulfate? Try testing it with a soluble barium salt. Or, just make some with baking soda and sulfuric acid and you won't have a problem. The website says that the desiccant is calcium chloride and I doubt it has much else in it.

Hexavalent - 19-4-2012 at 11:35

Thanks barley.

I have no barium salts ATM, but will synthesise my own sodium sulfate and try again.

S.C. Wack - 19-4-2012 at 13:46

Try baking soda instead of the sulfate. There is also the solubility of the suspected CaCl2 in alcohol. Crystallization from aq. solution works OK for it.