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Phthalate Metal Complexes

xonu - 29-4-2023 at 12:12

"Recently" I've prepared a Copper Phthalate complex based on a 1967 paper I've found online: https://www.journal.csj.jp/doi/10.1246/bcsj.40.1162

I've also attempted the same procedure with Cobalt (II):
https://isopropyletherperoxide.github.io/2022/06/29/Cobalt.h...

I think they make some very nice colours and are easily accessible to most people and I haven't seen anyone mention them here yet


Oh, and at the moment I'm making more KHP for making the Ni (II) Complex and possibly isolating the anhydrous form of the copper complex (should be a nice green)

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xonu - 29-4-2023 at 12:20

Alternatively, the Nickel and Cobalt Phthalates can be made by refluxing their carbonates with Phthalic Anhydride for 6 hours.

However I ended up spilling the bright pink cobalt solution on my bench while evaporating it, and didn't get to see how the crystals look like

https://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/ja01621a014




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xonu - 15-7-2023 at 07:28

After a while of inactivity, I did end up making the nickel phthalate, which ended up a very pale blue, quite similar to some Cu (II) salts.



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Fery - 15-7-2023 at 09:49

Well done! The Ni phthalate looks pale green on photos or is it pale blue as you wrote (camera sensors are not so good as human eye)?

DraconicAcid - 15-7-2023 at 10:48

Nice!

I find with various organic acids of the form H2X, I'm never sure if the product I'm getting is Cu(HX)2, CuX, or some form of complex containing [Cu(HX)X]- or [CuX2]2-. (Not to mention the various hydrates.) Do you have the full paper of your first citation? The full paper's actually accessible for free! Whoda thunk?

PS: Slava Ukraina!



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xonu - 12-8-2023 at 10:26

Quote: Originally posted by Fery  
Well done! The Ni phthalate looks pale green on photos or is it pale blue as you wrote (camera sensors are not so good as human eye)?


Initially a greenish colour, it turned into a very faint blue, almost white under certain angles after drying and crushing the big clumps of it

You can see the colour quite well in the picture attached next to the other phthalates I've made, and in the other pic where it's between Potassium Tetrachlorocuprate and Cyanochroite, which I thought were really similar

(also attached is a picture of green bits of it when it was just crystallizing out)

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