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Perilla plant extract & lemon juice yields magenta compound

Lion850 - 7-1-2023 at 15:06

My wife planted one of these plants of the Perilla family a few years ago and now it grows everywhere in the garden.
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The Vietnamese (and other Asians) use this plant in many ways for cooking, but what intrigued me from a chemistry side is the color change when used as a tonic drink.

The leaves are first washed in cold water:
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They are then placed in a cup and boiling water added. This gives a pale colored liquid. A lemon or lime is then squeezed into the liquid, which results in an immediate color change to magenta. See below video.
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I was interested see if this magenta color would result in a similarly colored dry solid. So I placed some in a shallow dish:
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It dried slowly, and now after a month I do indeed have a magenta solid, still very slightly sticky. And with mold growing on it. Quite a pleasant smell.
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I would love to know what the magenta compound is. And maybe this is a safe demo for school students to show a color change?









Parakeet - 7-1-2023 at 16:29

Perilla contains a pigment called anthocyanin. Anthocyanin is also contained in many other plants such as hydrangeas, red cabbages and pansies.
And yes, they are great materials for teaching. Here is a video that Japanese TV station made for education. https://www2.nhk.or.jp/school/movie/clip.cgi?das_id=D0005400... It’s Japanese but I think you can understand the pictures.
I haven’t done this experiment with perilla before, but I have with red cabbages. Keep in mind that they are unstable and not suitable for storage.
I also like to eat perilla very much! I love it’s nice smell.

Rainwater - 7-1-2023 at 16:30

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthocyanin
anthocyanins

Very nice color, the change was a result of acidity, add a base and it will turn blue

Lion850 - 8-1-2023 at 22:07

Thanks for the comments! I will play around with acidity and see which colors I get.

Liamatpm - 18-2-2023 at 14:33

Hmm that is pretty interesting. The colors are rather nice

Bedlasky - 19-2-2023 at 09:49

Lion850, use sodium carbonate as a base. From my experience NaOH destroy anthocyanins rather quickly, they turn brown and lose their ability to change colour with pH.