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Pyridine goo, what to do

DocX - 24-10-2022 at 10:37

I was evaporating water from a mixture of pyridine, glutamic acid, phtalic anhydride and some DMF, and I overshot the temperature and didn't check it often enough. The whole thing became a light- brown solid mass in the bottom of the RBF, texture a bit like fudgy rubber.

I don't have a clue what I created here, and not a clue about how to dissolve it. I'll try with water and heat, of course, and cheap solvents like acetone, but I don't know how toxic this is or how to reasonably dispose of it in a responsible way.

What's your bet?

[Edited on 20222222/10/24 by DocX]

[Edited on 20222222/10/24 by DocX]

SplendidAcylation - 24-10-2022 at 14:04

Well, I'm not sure how you could get it out of the flask, but in terms of disposal, a good way might be to cut it up into squares and give it to those pesky trick-or-treating children at Halloween, under the guise of "homemade fudge".

Haha.
But on a serious note, I'm not sure about the toxicity of these things when combined, but you can usually burn things to dispose of them safely.

I have a number of jars full of nasty tarry organic stuff that I plan to burn at some point.

Loptr - 24-10-2022 at 14:47

What were you trying to make with the original mixture?

DocX - 24-10-2022 at 21:50

Quote: Originally posted by Loptr  
What were you trying to make with the original mixture?


N-phtaloyl glutamate. It's an intermediary in thalidomide synthesis. I had done the reaction but got no precipitate when cooling it, so I figured I would boil off some volume of water. And then I got distracted.