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Behaviour of pentavalent vanadium in concentrated HCl/HBr

Bedlasky - 20-11-2021 at 22:22

Hi.

Few weeks ago I was wondering if VOCl3 can be made just from sodium vanadate and 36% HCl. It turns out that it isn't possible. However dark red [VOCl4]- ion is formed instead. But it was very suprising that this ion on heating decomposed giving green [VOCl4]2- ion and chlorine gas. VOCl3 is thermally stable, withstanding temperatures more than 600 °C. I really didn't expect this result. And because I had few interesting observations during this experiment, I decided to do some experiments in 48% HBr and compare it with reactions in 36% HCl. Results are similar, but not quite the same, because [VOBr4]- anion is even more unstable. I didn't find mention about this anion in literature, however [VOBr4]2- salts are very well described. And I succsesfully prove that VV is present in hydrobromic acid solutions at room temperature.

https://colourchem.wordpress.com/2021/11/21/prekvapive-chova...

https://colourchem.wordpress.com/2021/11/21/surprising-behav...

[Edited on 21-11-2021 by Bedlasky]

DraconicAcid - 21-11-2021 at 07:16

I've been reading about vanadium in my qualitative analysis books, and boiling a solution of V(V) in hydrochloric acid dry will convert it to V(IV). Several of the tests depend upon this.