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cyanide legality

its me! - 27-8-2019 at 22:56

I want to ask if owning sodium/potassium cyanide is legal in eu (czech republic to be exact) withold license

woelen - 28-8-2019 at 23:41

It is legal, but there will not be many suppliers who are willing to sell it to you. But if you can find one, or you can make it yourself safely, then you may have it (in small quantitities).

Bedlasky - 29-8-2019 at 03:45

I send you message in to U2U about it.

DavidJR - 30-8-2019 at 12:54

Quote: Originally posted by Picnic Acid
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|| In the UK all chemicals in the C=N group (Except ferrocyanide and ferricyanide) are illegal to buy, possess, make or obtain without a valid EPP license. This law isn't harmonised with EU law, however, I would imagine most countries will have something more or less like this. I would check with the Czech Republic's version of the Home Office first.

That is not correct.

HCN and metal cyanides (except ferrocyanide/ferricyanides) require an EPP licence. However, other compounds containing a cyanide group are not licensed.

I have plenty of (legal) acetonitrile, for instance. And even if you don't count organic cyanides (nitriles) then there are inorganic nonmetal cyanides like ammonium cyanide... and "fun" things like dicyanogen and cyanogen halides.

Fery - 30-8-2019 at 17:57

Cyanides are classified as T+ in CZ (T+ means highly toxic).
Read the Law 258/2000 Sb, ยง 44b. You need university degree in chem, pharmacy, medicine, vet, etc or successfully pass special examinations...
But you can perform experiments using cyanides under surveilance of someone who is competent in handling such chemicals according the law mentioned above.

Fantasma4500 - 4-9-2019 at 23:31

i believe in EU the law is that you simply have to keep poison locked up responsibly such as in a metal locker with lock, it isnt quite clear really. could be country specific, im not 100% sure.

Mabus - 16-10-2019 at 12:34

Does that law you mentioned specify if it applies to private individuals or research labs/companies only?

roeintgen - 17-12-2019 at 12:18

No, it's not legal for you. But if my guess about your end product is right, the legality of those steps involved shouldn't really matter to you. I think that NurdRage has a video on how to make it.

Quote: Originally posted by Mabus  
Does that law you mentioned specify if it applies to private individuals or research labs/companies only?
It applies both to private individuals and companies.


[Edited on 17-12-2019 by roeintgen]

G-Coupled - 18-12-2019 at 02:19

Quote: Originally posted by roeintgen  
No, it's not legal for you. But if my guess about your end product is right...


Ooh, do tell - I love me a mystery, and I haven't got a clue. :cool:

roeintgen - 18-12-2019 at 08:09

Quote: Originally posted by G-Coupled  
Ooh, do tell - I love me a mystery, and I haven't got a clue. :cool:


assuming solely on the chloroacetone and cyanide searches that he might wanna make some of the old school biker stuff, might be wrong though