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NaClO2 suppliers who ship internationally

mewrox99 - 31-8-2010 at 03:04

I've being searching for MMS and Sodium Chlorite. But can't seem to find any online that ships overseas. They used to sell it in NZ but it's been banned since someone died.

Anyone know a good site, preferably 90%+ but 60-80% shit will do fine.

I have no intentions of ever consuming Sodium Chlorite :P only a moron would do that

[Edited on 31-8-2010 by mewrox99]

undead_alchemist - 31-8-2010 at 12:37

I have over 25kg of it.
If you were in Canada it would be no problem.

Methyl.Magic - 31-8-2010 at 12:49

what is MMS ?

psychokinetic - 31-8-2010 at 16:56

MMS cracks me up. (It's Miracle Mineral Supplement, which is NaClO2 + citrus juice to 'activate' it) EDIT: It's for water purification. Sorry, forgot to mention that bit.

"Oh noes, don't use dangerous chemicals in drycleaning!"
"Oh, and can I grab some MMS, I'd like to nom it"

Mewrox99 - there's MMS on trademe, but purity is unknown.

[Edited on 1-9-2010 by psychokinetic]

psychokinetic - 31-8-2010 at 17:09

Eh scratch that, I found the home site of the product:

0.125L 28% NaClO2 for $40.

mewrox99 - 31-8-2010 at 18:52

Do you know where to get solid NaClO2 in NZ

psychokinetic - 1-9-2010 at 13:29

I flexed my google muscle, but to no avail I am sorry.

One possibility would be to try an RD1 or Farmlands (as it is used as a teat dip for coos). But that would probably be in liquid form. Drycleaning specialists and suppliers probably have it, but I'd also bet that it isn't available to private buyers. The one place I found that certainly has it is Ajax, but alas, no private sales.

mewrox99 - 2-9-2010 at 03:51

Yeah it's a shame with ajax as they have some real nice stuff. I emailed them a few months ago and they said it's a NZ police requirement.

Oh noes if people get copper sulfate they can make bombs + meth :o

Silly nz police

psychokinetic - 13-9-2010 at 00:58

Speaking of CuSO4, I got shitloads from Mitre 10 Mega.
I wonder if they have any NaClO2. . . .

metalresearcher - 13-9-2010 at 12:43

From Wikipedia:


Manufacture

The free acid, chlorous acid, HClO2, is only stable at low concentrations. Since it cannot be concentrated, it is not a commercial product. However, the corresponding sodium salt, sodium chlorite, NaClO2 is stable and inexpensive enough to be commercially available. The corresponding salts of heavy metals (Ag+, Hg+, Tl+, Pb2+, and also Cu2+ and NH4+) decompose explosively with heat or shock.

Sodium chlorite is derived indirectly from sodium chlorate, NaClO3. First, the explosive (only at concentrations greater than 10% in atmosphere) chlorine dioxide, ClO2 is produced by reducing sodium chlorate in a strong acid solution with a suitable reducing agent (for example, sodium sulfite, sulfur dioxide, or hydrochloric acid). The chlorine dioxide is then absorbed into an alkaline solution and reduced with hydrogen peroxide, H2O2 yielding sodium chlorite.


As NaClO3 is rather easy to make by electrolyzing table salt you can make this youself ?

mewrox99 - 21-9-2010 at 01:18

Chlorine Dioxide is not a substance I'm prepared to handle. Or ingest! (Silly MMS folk)

But when there is a will, there's a way! I'm sure I'll eventually get some. Not long ago I thought I would never be able to get KClO3 and CaC2 in NZ

Shame they were little tiny bottles (HMS-Beagle)

[Edited on 21-9-2010 by mewrox99]

woelen - 21-9-2010 at 01:52

I have my sodium chlorite from this source:

http://tulucechemicals.com/auction_details.php?name=SODIUM-C...

I had the chemical shipped from Turkey to the Netherlands and asked to leave out the citric acid (that only adds to the shipping cost and I can buy that locally). I paid appr. EUR 18 for 1 lb of the chemical, including the cost of shipping. This guy ships worldwide. The chemical is shipped together with an extensive manual on how to make MMS yourself from the solid chemical and this manual is full of nonsensical crap, but the chemical is of perfect quality ;)

If you order the chemical, then be sure that it is legal in your country. It is where I live, but I cannot speak for yours.