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Barium(II) acetate and Lead(II) acetate + phenylacetic acid -> P2P?

harmlessexperiment - 27-2-2010 at 07:17

Dear Sciencemadness users,

I wanted to know if anyone had any links or references to these two reactions. I've tried Rhodiums Archives at Erowid andf can't seem to find any experimental information. except for this link:

http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/p2p.phenylac...

Does anybody have any information on the reaction conditions and temperatures, also the ratios?

One other question I have is do you react phenylacetic acid with barium(II) acetate; OR barium phenylacetate with barium(II) acetate?

In the link I gave they give the impression that the acid is reacted with the acetate.

User - 27-2-2010 at 07:26

Ow come on.
My suspicion was right.
->Strong ammonia
->Al/Hg without 3 neck flask
->Now this...


Simsalabim...

"Cook be gone"

Darn, better practice that.

woelen - 27-2-2010 at 07:27

P2P, is that some new allotrope of phosphorus :D ??

harmlessexperiment - 27-2-2010 at 08:18

I can';t believe you guys are treating me like a criminal. I'm only interested in perfumary! :)

harmlessexperiment - 27-2-2010 at 08:39

Come on guys be open-minded. I'm an expwerimenter like you, I just don't have the chemjistry knowledge you do.

UnintentionalChaos - 27-2-2010 at 08:57

Quote: Originally posted by harmlessexperiment  
I can';t believe you guys are treating me like a criminal. I'm only interested in perfumary! :)


horsecock.

get the fuck off my porch.

harmlessexperiment - 27-2-2010 at 09:02

>>horsecock. get the fuck off my porch.

Smell the cheese :D

crazyboy - 27-2-2010 at 09:20

Meth cooks are not wanted here, go away.

harmlessexperiment - 27-2-2010 at 09:25

Quote: Originally posted by crazyboy  
Meth cooks are not wanted here, go away.


LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!! Have you started 6th grade? It doesn't sound like it.

rrkss - 27-2-2010 at 09:53

Quote: Originally posted by harmlessexperiment  
Come on guys be open-minded. I'm an expwerimenter like you, I just don't have the chemjistry knowledge you do.


In that case, get some chemistry knowledge. Running reactions without knowing what the heck you are doing or working with is a good way to get yourself killed or severely injured. Some chemicals we work with are known to catch fire spontaniously when handled improperly. t-butyl lithium is one that comes to mind.

JohnWW - 27-2-2010 at 10:14

"HarmlessExperiment" should find himself a country where it is still legal to be a "meth cook", or at least where is no law enforcement. Somalia? Afghani$tan?

Polverone - 27-2-2010 at 11:22

Did you miss this page? Read the page, read the original article it's summarized from, read the articles that cite that article or are cited by it. I doubt that you are going to find something like "A Comparative Study of Pyrolytic Reactions of Calcium, Barium, and Lead Salts for the Ghetto Production of P2P."

It is permissible to discuss any sort of chemistry here. But people who appear to be motivated by cravings for pharmacologically active compounds or the black market profits to be had from them receive heightened scrutiny. If you cannot communicate like a scientist and show that you have already put a reasonable amount of effort into your questions, you will get nowhere fast. Or, to put it another way, if your question is only suitable for Beginnings and it appears directed at producing popular synthetic drugs of abuse, then your question is not suitable for this forum at all.