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Need help - questions about thiodiglycol

quashed - 12-6-2009 at 15:23

Does anyone know how long thiodiglycol will last in a sealed container? What happens when this period comes to an end? Are their breakdown products? If so, what are they?

Any help or direction in finding answers to these questions is much appreciated. Thanks.

JohnWW - 12-6-2009 at 18:52

You could probably tell from the smell of the stuff! See the thread about "Best/worst smelling chemicals".

benzylchloride1 - 13-6-2009 at 20:48

This is your first post here; why are you inquiring about a chemical weapons precursor. I am not saying that chemical weapons are your intent, but its kind of suspicious. Thiodiglycol is used in inks though.

Paddywhacker - 13-6-2009 at 22:30



You would know if you had any reasonable education in organic chemistry, that on it's own, stored sealed, dry and in the dark, there is not much that thiodiglycol can do with itself.

If oxygen can get in, then so can water, and in that case there might be some oxidation. If it is stored in a metal container then again, there might be some reaction. But on pure, its own, it should be stable indefinitely.

[Edited on 15-6-09 by The_Davster]

UnintentionalChaos - 13-6-2009 at 23:01
Quote: Originally posted by Paddywhacker  
You would know if you had any reasonable education in organic chemistry, that on it's own, stored sealed, dry and in the dark, there is not much that thiodiglycol can do with itself.

If oxygen can get in, then so can water, and in that case there might be some oxidation. If it is stored in a metal container then again, there might be some reaction. But on pure, its own, it should be stable indefinitely.


Sounds right. Possible oxidation products would be bis-(2-ethoxyethyl)sullfoxide and bis-(2-ethoxyethyl)sulfone.

[Edited on 15-6-09 by The_Davster]

The_Davster - 14-6-2009 at 19:09

Asking this question does not break forum rules. It is not unreasonable to ask why, to prevent one from doing something careless, but the personal attacks must be left out.

Sauron - 14-6-2009 at 19:56

Thiodiglycol is used in the printing industry and the textile industry as a solvent for inks.
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It has been demonized for its use by the criminal regime of the late unlamented nass murderer Saddam. The Iraquis (and the Iranians) used it to produce the vesicant "sulfur mustard" by thr archaic 18tyh century so called "German method", q.v.

This is despite the fact that there are much cheaper and much more efficient routes to the same agent from petroleum material (ethylene) readily at hand to both regimes.

The stupidity of such regimes is matched by that of the international control regimes which arose after the fact.

I don't know why the thread author is asking these questions about thiodiglycol BUT if it is to be deemed suspicious then how about all the questions from wannabe dope cooks?

The thread poster did NOT ask about where to obtain thiodiglycol, or how to make it - and if he had asked he would have been directed no further than Org.Syn. and its references which cover this rather thoroughly.