write the structural formula of trichloroactone ???
everyone is telling me there is nothing called actone and its supposed to be acetone but that question is in my chemistry book
plz12AX7 - 16-5-2008 at 10:09
Ha, and now you know why chemists are anal-retentive about spelling. It sounds like you found a typo.
TimPulverulescent - 16-5-2008 at 11:05
Tim has a 'thing' about typos, incidentally!
He professes a lazy disposition, but, oddly, fails to recognise same in others.
I do't do typos very often but deliberate mistakes are something elsre.
'Could very well be acetone, but I'm leaning towards lactone, since it is a query from a (I presume) member of the (un)fair sex.
There's a ell of a difference!
oops!. . .another typo, miss, or is that ms.. M'y apologies. . .
PPulverulescent - 16-5-2008 at 11:18
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Originally posted by 12AX7
It sounds like you found a typo.
'Subtle error,Tim. . . . . .
It should of course be "'Looks like you found a typo"!
Seperate and definately are just two of my particular bete noires!
PPulverulescent - 16-5-2008 at 12:14
Betes noires. . . Sheeeshh!
'Sound of dreadlocks hitting floor. . .
PPulverulescent - 16-5-2008 at 13:08
Whatever about chivalry---where are my ordinary manners!
Welcome aboard, miss_snake!
Checking us out just might shed some light on male preoccupations. . .then again. . .
PShadowWarrior4444 - 16-5-2008 at 13:26
Trichloroacetone
IUPAC Name: 1,1,1-trichloropropan-2-one
CAS Number: 918-00-3
Chemical Formula: C3H3Cl3O
This is most likely it, and while trichlorolactone does exist, I'm fairly certain it wouldn’t be a "write the formula" question in a textbook.
Though, if it is trichlorolactone, the formula can be found here: New copper(I) and iron(II) complexes for atom transfer radical macrocyclisation reactions http://www.rsc.org/ej/P1/2000/a908245j.pdf
Happy reading!
(This paper may be interesting to other forum members as well. Two birds+one stone.)
[Edited on 5-16-2008 by ShadowWarrior4444]Pulverulescent - 16-5-2008 at 13:45
If I were a girl, I think I'd be more into lactones than ketones.
PShadowWarrior4444 - 16-5-2008 at 13:48
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Originally posted by Pulverulescent
If I were a girl, I think I'd be more into lactones than ketones.
P
If you were human, you'd be a sexist. *wink*
(Or at the very least, a victim of particularly vigorous gender socialization training.)
[Edited on 5-16-2008 by ShadowWarrior4444]Pulverulescent - 16-5-2008 at 14:16
'One of dwindling few too, ShadowWarrior.
I should get reconstructed.
P12AX7 - 16-5-2008 at 14:23
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Originally posted by Pulverulescent
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Originally posted by 12AX7
It sounds like you found a typo.
'Subtle error,Tim. . . . . .
It should of course be "'Looks like you found a typo"!
Incorrect. English, as a spoken language, allows evolving expressions. "It (senses) like ..." is a common expression, whether the sense is sound,
sight, smell or others. Just because it doesn't make sense (we are using a visual, not auditory medium) doesn't mean it isn't proper English.
So there.
TimPulverulescent - 16-5-2008 at 14:28
Don't listen to him, guys. . .and gal; he's making it up as he goes along!
PShadowWarrior4444 - 16-5-2008 at 14:39
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Originally posted by Pulverulescent
Don't listen to him, guys. . .and gal; he's making it up as he goes along!
P
Silence blasphemer! You will not succeed in your attempt to poison these minds.
To snake: You are very welcome! (Though you seem to have deleted your former post.) A word of advice:
Proper grammar and spelling, as well as avoiding the use of internet abbreviations, tends to connote intelligence and thoughtfulness to those who read
it. Phrasing your question well and proofreading it may elicit less heckling.
(Googling the word 'trichloroactone' would have been a helpful starting step, as google itself suggests trichloroacetone.)
[Edited on 5-16-2008 by ShadowWarrior4444]miss_snake - 16-5-2008 at 14:40
shadow so actone=acetone but its not a spelling mistake, right?miss_snake - 16-5-2008 at 14:42
I checked every website and tried all search engines plz tell me actone existsShadowWarrior4444 - 16-5-2008 at 14:43
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Originally posted by miss_snake
shadow so actone=acetone but its not a spelling mistake, right?
No, it is a spelling mistake. 'actone' is not a word, however upon typing trichloroactone into google, google's internal spellcheck suggests that you
might be looking for "trichloroacetone." This is especially useful if you had no prior knowledge of the chemical 'acetone.'
[Edited on 5-16-2008 by ShadowWarrior4444]miss_snake - 16-5-2008 at 14:47
now thats a big problem for me anywayz thank u shadow and thx everyone for showing how gentle u rShadowWarrior4444 - 16-5-2008 at 15:00
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Originally posted by miss_snake
now thats a big problem for me anywayz thank u shadow and thx everyone for showing how gentle u r
Perhaps you can use a bit of contextual examination to determine which chemical it is, because it comes down to either being acetone, or lactone.
Since you mentioned it was a textbook question--is it attached to a specific chapter in the textbook? Does the text's index have an entry for
"actone"? Also, importantly, what *is* the textbook? (textbooks in which they catch a spelling error after publication may post corrections online, or
there may be a chem teacher writing a disgusted blog on the spelling in the textbook, etc.)
Perhaps others here have had experience with this textbook, or similar ones--so posting the name, chapter, other questions near this one, etc. may be
helpful. ("Use the test to take the test.")miss_snake - 16-5-2008 at 15:05
the chapter is about aldehydes and ketones and my book can't be taken as a reference because it is about basic chemistry for predental students (who
has nothing to do with chemistry)
Originally posted by miss_snake
the chapter is about aldehydes and ketones and my book can't be taken as a reference because it is about basic chemistry for predental students (who
has nothing to do with chemistry)
If the chapter is about ketones then it must be Acetone! A casual glance at the wiki category on ketones reveals acetone listed. Googling
'actone' and 'ketone' in the same space should return results about Acetone being a ketone.
The above is a typo as well, they are just talking about the dilution of acetone.
So then, the procedure for identifying whether this was a typo and if so what it was would simply be:
1. searching for "actone"--this yields a vast majority or results for "acetone," which suggests that it may be a typo.
2. Look up acetone, this should revel that acetone is a ketone, and since the chapter is *on* ketones, you’ve got a good probability that it is a
typo of acetone.
To confirm you may want to search for a list of ketone and a list of common aldehydes to see if any could possibly match the letters in 'actone.' I do
not believe that 'lactone' is either a ketone or aldehyde, therefore it is fairly certain that it refers to acetone.miss_snake - 16-5-2008 at 15:22
I heave heard that many times , thanks again shadow Pulverulescent - 17-5-2008 at 00:55
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Originally posted by ShadowWarrior4444
Proper grammar and spelling, as well as avoiding the use of internet abbreviations, tends to connote intelligence and thoughtfulness to those who read
it.
Or, as in my case, the unstoppable drive to appear intelligent.
PMagicJigPipe - 17-5-2008 at 03:49
Miss_snake, if you have heard this before you should not have had to ask over here! Does it not make sense that since the chapter is on ketones and
acetone IS a ketone that it is most likely a typo or mispelling of acetone? A quick search of lactone reveals that it is not a ketone or an aldehyde.
Also, a quick search for "actone" reveals that it is not a word. You even wrote that the second time this word is spelled as "acetone" IN THE SAME
QUESTION!
Sheeeesh... I'm glad you got your answer, though. I sure hope you learn something from this class because it would do you good to have at least a
basic knowledge of chemistry no matter what you're doing.
Perhaps you're just not proficient with searching and finding things out with the internet. I hope that's it. Good luck with (dental?) school!
[Edited on 5-17-2008 by MagicJigPipe]Pulverulescent - 17-5-2008 at 08:40
But, MagicJigPipe, women have so much to teach us, too!
Take gynecology, for example---'everything I know on the subject, I learned from women, and the process in ongoing.
