ManyInterests
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New chemical restrictions in Canada?
https://canadagazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/2021/2021-06-05/html/re...
According to this now acetone, hexamine, calcium ammonium nitrate and aluminum powder will be added to the explosive act as explosive precursors?
While I don't think that hexamine fuel tablets or CAN cold packs will be going away, they might end up being harder and/or more annoying to get.
Any Canadian home/professional chemists got any comment on this? Cold packs are the only easy source of nitrates I know of, and acetone is great for
cleaning all sorts of stuff and removing glue off surfaces. That is what I find really dumb. It's a basic solvent, and they are so terrified of some
terrorist trying to make TATP that they want to monitor sales of the stuff? Most terrorists who try to make the stuff blow themselves up or lose their
fingers. There is a reason why it's called the mother of Satan by the Palestinians. It isn't because of it's power. It's because of how dangerous it
is to the user it is.
[Edited on 6-7-2021 by ManyInterests]
[Edited on 6-7-2021 by ManyInterests]
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Acetone was to be restricted when bought in bigger than something like 5L quantities. So buying 1L cans will not change. Your link states though that
suspicious transactions should be reported, which is in line with the already existing precursors list that is like 60 years old.
I classify acetone as one of the most important solvents because of it's versatility for all purposes, and restricting it would basically change the
basis of many things.
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I was looking for acetone in Walmart two nights ago and the shelves were empty so this post set my mind racing a little.
Picked up a,"US gallon," of it at Home Hardware this afternoon, though.
What the article says does seem to be in line with its status as a (former?) class B precursor, which reminds me I need to do up some ether to round
out the collection.
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S.C. Wack
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Which would apply to those currently selling gallons?
IMHO all the restrictions everywhere are about chemical control in general, and whatever excuse is made is just the excuse that is made. Weird how
every chemical that's banned for OTC purposes could be used for drugs in some way too. Note how Canada banned Br cpds. for hot tubs; maybe it's not a
controlled substance, but it's now not OTC and no doubt Canadian children are much safer now from the menace of bromide disinfection and another
tragic public health loophole in the regulations.
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Eumh another source of nitrate..its a lil bit expensive but its easy to get..Road flares,they are like 50%+ strontium nitrate..its easy to separate
the SRN03 from all of the other stuff in it,but like i said..its pretty expensive for what it is..
Calcium ammonium nitrate is still available
5L+ container of acetone are still sold in pretty much all hardware stores
Hexamine is still "common"
And aluminium powder can be purchased online without trouble
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Quote: Originally posted by Energetics-testin  | Eumh another source of nitrate..its a lil bit expensive but its easy to get..Road flares,they are like 50%+ strontium nitrate..its easy to separate
the SRN03 from all of the other stuff in it,but like i said..its pretty expensive for what it is..
Calcium ammonium nitrate is still available
5L+ container of acetone are still sold in pretty much all hardware stores
Hexamine is still "common"
And aluminium powder can be purchased online without trouble
[Edited on 25-7-2022 by Energetics-testin] |
Totally off topic, but such restrictions open up a huge potential for illicit smuggling of reagents. Not so different than alcohol prohibition of the
past or the drug prohibition of today.
I can quite literally obtain a 50 pound bag of fertilizer grade AN for a similar price if not less than a 5 pack of road flares here in the US. It
must suck living in communist Canada.
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Well I will be running into some problems. While not a legal thing. Westlab apparently stopped selling to residential addresses. My account was
deleted. I did contact them about it and tried to make another one, but I realize it will likely be pointless since they cannot ship to my apartment
anyway.
Which was a pity since I was going to make a pretty big order. At least nothing I wanted to get is too hard to get in other places, and the things
that ARE hard to get I already bought, so I will need to make sure my supply lasts. Things like ammonium thiocyanate especially.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Energetics-testin | Eumh another source of nitrate..its a lil bit expensive but its easy to get..Road flares,they are like 50%+ strontium nitrate.
[Edited on 25-7-2022 by Energetics-testin] |
What's a road flare?
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The UK has recently banned any H2SO4 above 15 w% to non-'permit holders'.
Working up car battery acid will become all the rage among some backyard scientists.
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Long time burning pyro comp with Sr nitrate / carbonate, a pinch of KClO4, shellac, sometimes sawdust or a cooling salt to slow down burn time. Burn
times vary between 5 to 20 minutes usually.
Used by EMT & Law enforcement when accidents happened in fog, bad weather conditions etc.
They are now mostly a thing of the past since you can do better and cheaper with LED's.
The spirit of adventure was upon me. Having nitric acid and copper, I had only to learn what the words 'act upon' meant. - Ira Remsen
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| Quote: Originally posted by S.C. Wack |
Which would apply to those currently selling gallons?
IMHO all the restrictions everywhere are about chemical control in general, and whatever excuse is made is just the excuse that is made. Weird how
every chemical that's banned for OTC purposes could be used for drugs in some way too. Note how Canada banned Br cpds. for hot tubs; maybe it's not a
controlled substance, but it's now not OTC and no doubt Canadian children are much safer now from the menace of bromide disinfection and another
tragic public health loophole in the regulations. |
Apparently sodium bromide is only banned in certain systems (particularly in combination with Oxone):
troublefreepool.com/threads/sodium-bromide-is-not-banned-in-canada.248924/
Furthermore, I have not found any evidence that BCDMH is banned in Canada, although the purification of bromine from this compound is annoying (to say
the least!).
[Edited on 14-12-2022 by clearly_not_atara]
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Sodium bromide can be obtained easily, but its application in swimming pools is not permitted in many countries. For instance, in NL we can buy sodium
bromide, or potassium bromide without problem, but not in swimming pool products. What someone does at home in his personal tub is hard to check, but
using bromine in a public swimming pool is not allowed. I understood that this is due to possible health effects of long time or repeated exposure to
bromine/bromide and hence the banning of bromine-based swimming pool products. All products over here are chlorine-based, or based on oxygen-compounds
(e.g. oxone).
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maybe bromide isnt toxic enough? dipping in a swimming pool can starve your testosterone for as long as 2 weeks for as much as 20%
undoubtedly its in decline, im becoming the older generation, im supposed to think the younger ones are crazy- im really just disappointed with how
boring they are, the average old man is more masculine than the average teen .. "male"
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| Quote: Originally posted by Fantasma4500 | dipping in a swimming pool can starve your testosterone for as long as 2 weeks for as much as 20%
undoubtedly its in decline, [...] |
You have evidence for this? A reference maybe?
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