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[*] posted on 25-5-2012 at 19:33
horde of gear uncovered in Toronto


So, I just bought a ten foot high pile of lab equipment from the widow of an oil sands chemist. What have I got myself into? 5 pounds of Cobalt Chloride, a waist-high Soxhlet, pounds of Silver Nitrate... a liter of dimethyl sulfoxide. I have definitely put the M in Science Madness today.

Thoughts on what to do with it all?

[Edited on 2012-5-26 by edgecase]

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[*] posted on 25-5-2012 at 19:36


Pardon my french but: PICS! Please?
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[*] posted on 25-5-2012 at 20:19


Thermometers - left all mercury, right, Hg with tapered joints

Gas washers, impinger, fritted, tapered end, straight end.

sweet mercy sized crystallizing dishes

magnetic stirred globe?

24/40 west condenser, big glass funnel, 1L Erlenmeyer, 1L graduated cylinder

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[*] posted on 25-5-2012 at 22:24


My goodness, what a find!!

Congrats ;)




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[*] posted on 25-5-2012 at 23:58


but wait, there's more! Teaser image + link to gallery. I've uploaded photos of the more intersting half of the first of 3 carloads. And to think kids play video games for fun!

http://coplanar.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=348&g2_p...

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[*] posted on 26-5-2012 at 05:31


Lovely reagents, especially the iodate.
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[*] posted on 26-5-2012 at 05:53


Am I the only one that cringes at the thought that my lab equipment, which I've carefully dedicated a significant part of my life, time and money, would be ripped apart on auctions "like a dead carcass in the desert sun"?
It just makes me nervous to think that I could die tomorrow, and all my work would be dissolved away. Not that I'd probably care, I'd be dead. Chances are there's nothing after death. It fucking sucks, I know.

For those reasons I don't like buying old, used things. There's a story behind them. Sometimes it's someone who has to give up his work because he has no money to support himself/family, sometimes someone dies, like this... oil sands chemist.
I catch myself thinking: "Wow, I'm like a scavenger".

Not that I think it's rational... or anything woo woo about it, it's just my feeling in the domain of morality.

But then again, at least someone will enjoy the fruits of his work. It depends how you look at things, I guess.

[Edited on 26-5-2012 by Endimion17]




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[*] posted on 26-5-2012 at 06:57


For myself knowing how hard it is to equip yourself as an amateur chemist, I would love that somebody can enjoy my equipment as much as I do when I'm gone. The thought of it all just sitting in boxes forever seems like an awful waste really...
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[*] posted on 26-5-2012 at 09:17


how much did you pay for all that?



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[*] posted on 26-5-2012 at 12:11


Is gloating proper etiquette for SM? If so, then I paid $600 for the lot, I'm going back tomorrow to pickup the rest in a pickup truck. Pwned?

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[*] posted on 26-5-2012 at 12:43


Wow nice find! So much cool stuff!



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[*] posted on 26-5-2012 at 12:59


You really got quite the deal there for 600$. Are you by any chance planning on selling any of it?
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[*] posted on 26-5-2012 at 17:59


Yes there is way more than I have space for, there are many duplicates, etc. I am going to try and haul the rest home tomorrow and start cataloguing it.

There are like 6 cases of coors evaporating dishes, not sure why but enough for each SM member to get one as a door prize!
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[*] posted on 27-5-2012 at 05:40


Did you calculate the value of the silver salts alone? Years ago when silver was $6 U.S. per troy ounce, it wasn't too bad, but now... your $600 investment is well spent.
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[*] posted on 27-5-2012 at 06:32


I can't tell how much AgNO3 is in that bottle, but if it's even half-full, that's a good chunk of the $600, considering that one seller has 100g of AgNO3 for a little over $200. From the look of the prices of the salts, I'd guess that just buying the reagents by themselves would be around $600, if not higher.

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[*] posted on 28-5-2012 at 07:14


AgNO3 in the bottle? There are 10 more bottles, i estimate 1.5kg, some of it is AgSO4, prolly 800g as Ag metal.... so that's covered the lot, and gas money. I will definitely let some of the savings "trickle down", first on SM then eBay. If anyone is making videos on youtube and has something they've been wanting to do, but can't for lack of gear... well you're on the top of my list :)

Speaking of videos... I could make my first video of making nitric acid, yawn... but how outrageous would it be to use AgNO3! Assuming it's easier to electroplate from AgSO4, I might as well.

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[*] posted on 28-5-2012 at 08:35


Quote: Originally posted by Endimion17  
Am I the only one that cringes at the thought that my lab equipment, which I've carefully dedicated a significant part of my life, time and money, would be ripped apart on auctions "like a dead carcass in the desert sun"?
It just makes me nervous to think that I could die tomorrow, and all my work would be dissolved away. Not that I'd probably care, I'd be dead. Chances are there's nothing after death. It fucking sucks, I know.

For those reasons I don't like buying old, used things. There's a story behind them. Sometimes it's someone who has to give up his work because he has no money to support himself/family, sometimes someone dies, like this... oil sands chemist.
I catch myself thinking: "Wow, I'm like a scavenger".

Not that I think it's rational... or anything woo woo about it, it's just my feeling in the domain of morality.

But then again, at least someone will enjoy the fruits of his work. It depends how you look at things, I guess.

[Edited on 26-5-2012 by Endimion17]


i understand where you are coming from with it but look at it this way...
would you rather let all this equipment rot in a container for years and finaly over taken by vegetation? untill a greedy real estate company finds it and call the EPA to have it removed and destroyed?
happens all the time ,it makes me sick !




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[*] posted on 28-5-2012 at 11:47


I think we might have a new Dr. Bob over here with the stacks of lab equipment.

edit: typo

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[*] posted on 29-5-2012 at 02:43


How much oil sand contamination is left in all that glassware. It definitely has a brown tinge to it, at least some of it does.
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[*] posted on 29-5-2012 at 07:17


Quote: Originally posted by hyfalcon  
How much oil sand contamination is left in all that glassware. It definitely has a brown tinge to it, at least some of it does.


The small Sohxlet and other items in the garbage can were filthy, the roof in the trailer likely leaked carrying in whatever dirt was on the roof. That cleaned up except for a white streak on the outside, hope it's not etched glass from leaking hydroxide. The lady had all the chemicals in a burlap sack. Good thing the Na2SO3 and KH2PO4 didn't mix?

The sohxlet, and the 2 solvent stillheads have some sort of white resin, hot methanol will not get it out. I guess toluene or a base bath is next.

The Bucchi condenser was just brown from hard water, a little HCl sorted that out real quick. I'll tell you what though, bakelite or whatever the nuts are made out of don't like HCl, got a bit of a stain on one, whoops.

Some of the glass stopcock grease is a bit brown also.

Here is one large vacuum desiccator cleaned up, dried out, re-greased. Suggestions for safety shield?

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[*] posted on 29-5-2012 at 07:31


Quote: Originally posted by edgecase  
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Speaking of videos... I could make my first video of making nitric acid, yawn... but how outrageous would it be to use AgNO3! Assuming it's easier to electroplate from AgSO4, I might as well.




Fuck yeah, go for it! Include some calculations of the amount of money in the reaction vessel. You might reach YouTube fame.


Quote: Originally posted by neptunium  
i understand where you are coming from with it but look at it this way...
would you rather let all this equipment rot in a container for years and finaly over taken by vegetation? untill a greedy real estate company finds it and call the EPA to have it removed and destroyed?
happens all the time ,it makes me sick !


Yeah, I agree with you. This is a far better solution.




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[*] posted on 29-5-2012 at 09:04


I love the lab picture! Makes me so jealous my lab space doesn't look like that :(



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[*] posted on 30-5-2012 at 11:11


Quote: Originally posted by edgecase  
but wait, there's more! Teaser image + link to gallery. I've uploaded photos of the more intersting half of the first of 3 carloads. And to think kids play video games for fun!

http://coplanar.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=348&g2_p...



oooo!!!,,,,big juicy bottles of reagents there!!!!!!

The KI and KIO3 + acidification, produces a nice elemental Iodine from solution, although youve got a bottle of that there.......
Nice jar of CoCl2 as well........!!!!!
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[*] posted on 30-5-2012 at 11:46


The jar of KI makes me burn with envy... Just kidding. I really wish it were cheaper to buy though.

I was a little disappointed when my teacher poured a lot of nearly saturated KI on an exhausted elephant toothpaste reaction just to see what would happen. If I hadn't put the rest in a bottle, she would have thrown it away.
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[*] posted on 30-5-2012 at 14:31


Makes me drool with envy. Price some of the excess and start recovering your investment. Maybe, huh, huh, please, pretty ple.......
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