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Strike?
http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/28063/jan-18th-the-interne...
Should Sciencmadness go down on the 18th?
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BromicAcid
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Strike Strike Strike, with all the chemistry books and information we look at online we cannot afford to have that information cut off.
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Pulverulescent
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I got a FNF, 497 . . .
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zoombafu
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We definitely should. Especially seeing that science madness could get shut down by the government in the future because we may be terrorists for
being interested in science! Ill take down my blog as well (even though it doesn't have many viewers, and I haven't written anything in a bit)
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White Yeti
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Yes.
Most of us depend on the access to free information. It's already annoying enough that science journals make you pay for reading articles. We all need
to earn a living, I understand, but some information, (scientific information in particular) should remain accessible to all.
"Ja, Kalzium, das ist alles!" -Otto Loewi
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not a big fan ...but sure why not ! as long as i can get some whisky!
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Polverone
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The forum, books, and LANL documents will all go offline January 18.
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benzylchloride1
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This about sums it up:
Once the religious, the hunted and weary
Chasing the promise of freedom and hope
Came to this country to build a new vision
Far from the reaches of Kingdom and pope
Like good Christians some would burn the witches
Later some got slaves to gather riches
But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands, to court the wild
But she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light
And once the ties with the crown had been broken
Westward in saddle and wagon it went
And till the railroad linked ocean to ocean
Many the lives which had come to an end
While we bullied, stole and bought a homeland
We began the slaughter of the red man
But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands to court the wild
But she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light
The Blue and Grey they stomped it
They kicked it just like a dog
And when the war was over
They stuffed it just like a hog
And though the past has its share of injustice
Kind was the spirit in many a way
But its protectors and friends have been sleeping
Now it's a monster and will not obey
The spirit was freedom and justice
And its keepers seemed generous and kind
Its leaders were supposed to serve the country
But now they won't pay it no mind
Cause the people grew fat and got lazy
Now their vote is a meaningless joke
They babble about law and order
But it's all just an echo of what they've been told
Yeah, there's a monster on the loose
It's got our heads into the noose
And it just sits there watchin'
The cities have turned into jungles
And corruption is stranglin' the land
The police force is watching the people
And the people just can't understand
We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole world's got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner we can't pay the cost
'Cause there's a monster on the loose
It's got our heads into the noose
And it just sits there watchin'
America, where are you now
Don't you care about your sons and daughters
Don't you know we need you now
We can't fight alone against the monster
America, where are you now
Don't you care about your sons and daughters
Don't you know we need you now
We can't fight alone against the monster
America...America...America...America...
Steppenwolf
[Edited on 18-1-2012 by benzylchloride1]
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froot
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What time where?
It would be nigh impossible to police a proposed law like this, especially if websites they find untoward are hosted in other countries. For example I
could keep a mirror of this site (I think that's doable) in this server box here next to me and there's not a hope in hell the men in black are coming
close to it.
The more copies of information they don't want us to have out there the better.
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hkparker
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They could still, probably, be effective at stopping DNS lookups oversees. I don't think the blacklist method would have a way of stopping direct IP
connections but the difficulty would be in telling everyone that SM's IP is now this, and here's how you get there.
The internet is resilient though, and worst comes to worst they wont be able to stop TOR or I2P. The problem is we shouldn't have to do all this.
My YouTube Channel
"Nothing is too wonderful to be true if it be consistent with the laws of nature." -Michael Faraday
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Polverone
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Welcome back.
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Pulverulescent
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Thanks Polverone, and the same to you!
Yeah froot, I didn't know the time-setup either, being on GMT!
That was one thing that pissed me off . . .
The other thing was that SOPA- "stop online piracy act" is a stupid, ambiguous acronym!
I thought the fascist measure was called the; "Online Piracy Act" and that SOPA was the movement to upend the fucking thing!
So then, reading about Glenn Beck's response to SOPA in Mediaite got me totally confused!
Fuck it, I think I'll go back to bed ─ and I'm just out of it!
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Pulverulescent
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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that; in an ideal world, the strike would not have affected members outside the US!
I mean, and correct me if I'm wrong, this whole debacle was generated by the American republican party and we in Europe should not have been denied
service on that basis!
Collective punishment?
[edit] When I saw that the excellent "WikiPaintings remained on all day I nearly fell off my chair! 
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[Edited on 19-1-2012 by Pulverulescent]
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Not just Republicans: both sides of the Isle in the USA. The chief proponents are hardened censorship proponents. It's a sad fact but there is no
angels in Congress.
Please see the document below.
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On the matter of the Patriot Act (amended 2nd version) there is also no anonymity on the internet. The 1st original version of the Patriot Act was
abridged by the Supreme Court but even the 2nd one made it so that reading someone's mail is no ,longer protected by privacy laws. Anyone who thinks
that by using several anonymous proxies or routing bridges to other countries and back would keep their true identity secure is mistaken. We have lost
SO MUCH of the 4th Amendment's protections that many people would be shocked to study the extent of that loss.
It's vital that people understand this and don't do silly things like record explosions and put them on uTube or write anything they would not say in
public because the internet is now truly a public institution.
These matters were pushed through to law by both parties. This is more an issue of the right to information than a Political one, per se'.
Attachment: 1st_and_SENATE-BILL.doc (234kB)
This file has been downloaded 575 times
[Edited on 19-1-2012 by quicksilver]
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A very good sum up of the reason behind this protest by Clay Shirky:
http://www.ted.com/talks/defend_our_freedom_to_share_or_why_...
Robert
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Quote: Originally posted by froot  | What time where?
It would be nigh impossible to police a proposed law like this, especially if websites they find untoward are hosted in other countries. For example I
could keep a mirror of this site (I think that's doable) in this server box here next to me and there's not a hope in hell the men in black are coming
close to it.
The more copies of information they don't want us to have out there the better. |
I like your attitude, but I know if that happened we'd hear nothing but a mumble when the guys with big black boots came to take it away.
[Edited on 19-1-2012 by Eliteforum]
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Make no mistake what SOPA is about. Piracy has been driving the RIAA and MPAA up the wall for well over a decade. Why the sudden urgency to pass some
legislation like this? I believe there are two main reasons: the recent Occupy protests, and the leak of vast tomes of diplomatic cables by
Wikileaks... they are deeply concerned by the speed and manner in which information spreads on the free and open internet. They would use such
legislation for far more than shutting down Piratebay. Fortunately it appears most already recognize this...
I weep at the sight of flaming acetic anhydride.
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It is sobering to think that, if this law is passed then you could spend longer in jail for downloading a single Michael Jackson track than his doctor
did for killing him.
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Wizzard
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I though I would VERY much like rogue antivirus / malware / fraud sites to be shut down, it's a VERY slippery slope for certain. Thanks SM forums for
showing your anti-SOPA support 
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497
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Thanks Polverone.
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